The War in the Ukraine

Maikeru said:

Detailed report on the drone attack at Morosovsk AB:

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The first image clearly shows damage to the shelter.

But the other picture is weird (Too large to post directly on the forum it seems.):

The only thing you can see is that some of the dark elements in the before picture are much darker in the "after" one. Someone screwing with the contrast(?) rather than actual scorch marks.

SolarWarden said:

They hit the airfield with drones so where's the Russian CAP?

Unlike the US the Russians and Chinese pretty much keep quiet on the MCR (Mission Capable Rate) of their Flanker fleet but the rumors have been that Flankers are hangar queens and now in time of war it could be the rumor is true. It doesn't make sense for a top 3 air force after two years of war to not have CAP at least the general area where there is war. At least have an AWACS flying so that it can scramble fighters to intercept incoming drones.

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supersnoop said:

Are you joking? China keeps quiet on a lot of things. We know the Chinese Flankers are flying regularly, just ask the Taiwan Airspace monitors.

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Russia having issues with airfield protection is evidence that Sino-Flankers are hangar queens. Great reasoning.

I don't believe the 2000 Ukrainian casualties in some days claim, the territorial land grab pace from either side looks like they just randomly fire bullets in the air, make agreements what small land to grab or what to blow up, go back home and call it a day.

Leopard 2A4 knocked out and burning near Pobjeda.


Ukrainian howitzer knocked out by the joint work of the Vega SPN and 14th Artillery Brigade.


Beaver unit, also known as Artist group, takes out a T-64BV with three FPV drones in the Kharkhiv sector.


Another captured Bradley in the Avdeyevka Ocheretino sector.


R-77 debris after shooting down a Ukrainian drone.


Ukrainian Pion firing. The effects of excessive and untended barrel wear is seen. That's the hidden enemy of Ukrainian artillery. Those surviving are wearing out fast or has worn out.


The effects of a Krasnopol shot on a Slovakian M55S tank with the Ukrainians.


41 Ukrainians tried to dodge draft by crossing the border but got caught.


Trophies taken by the 228th Regiment White Wolves after their capture of Novopokrovskoe in the Ocheretino sector.


Breakthrough past Georgievka by the 150th Division.


X-38ML hit on a building occupied by the AFU in Velyka Novoselka.


Enthusiastic pro Ukrainian blogger gets arrested by the SBU for posting confidential information. Namely shadow deliveries of M777 to the AFU.


Another Polish Krab SPG taken out.


Bradley taken out by the Sudoplatov using a VT-40.


Ukrainian pickup carrying ammunition gets hit by FPV drone by the Sudoplatov.


Ukrainian tank hit by a Lancet in the Kupyansk area.


Russian Strela-10 takes out a Leleka-100.


PzH2000 taken out in the Kherson region.


X-38ML hits another Ukrainian temporary deployment point.

Anyone know some good places around the U.S. that are far enough from cities, in case you know nukes start flying?

Rank Amateur said:

Russia having issues with airfield protection is evidence that Sino-Flankers are hangar queens. Great reasoning.

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Russians having issues keeping flankers airworthy for CAP is what I'm looking at. If the original can't stay airworthy protecting its airspace it makes me speculate about the copies.

blackjack21 said:

I don't believe the 2000 Ukrainian casualties in some days claim, the territorial land grab pace from either side looks like they just randomly fire bullets in the air, make agreements what small land to grab or what to blow up, go back home and call it a day.

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Easily believable since Russians are hitting barracks and deployment points consistently, nearly daily.

SolarWarden said:

Russians having issues keeping flankers airworthy for CAP is what I'm looking at. If the original can't stay airworthy protecting its airspace it makes me speculate about the copies.

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Stupid speculation being stupid. Lets not go down this train else we can for example draw speculations about the hit rates of American Patriots based on Saudi and Israeli "performances"

"Putin stated during a speech at the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) on June 14 that Ukrainian forces must begin to "completely withdraw" from Ukrainian-controlled territory in Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts and that Ukraine officially abandons its goal to join NATO before Russia can agree to a ceasefire and peace negotiations. [1] Putin stated that Russia is prepared to begin negotiations with Ukraine as soon as Ukraine agrees to withdraw from the entirety of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts (which is in total 18 percent of Ukraine’s territory). Russian forces currently occupy 75 percent of the total area of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts, and Putin is effectively demanding that Ukraine cede 40 percent of Donetsk Oblast, 25 percent of Kherson Oblast, 25 percent of Zaporizhia oblasts, and one percent of Luhansk Oblast that Russian forces do not control, including the provincial capitals Zaporizhia City and Kherson City."


A pretty strange affair, not sure what was the point of this.

Index said:

Easily believable since Russians are hitting barracks and deployment points consistently, nearly daily.

Stupid speculation being stupid. Lets not go down this train else we can for example draw speculations about the hit rates of American Patriots based on Saudi and Israeli "performances"

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No it's actually very reasonable speculation you just don't like it because it makes the VKS and its flankers look really bad. For about a year now Ukraine has been sending drones inside Russian airspace when are we going to see HUD footage of VKS fighters shooting down these drones? If footage existed MOD would happily release these kinds of videos of their air force shooting down drones over Russian airspace but there's no footage because they don't exist and they don't exist because VKS CAP don't exist. Not even alert fighters to scramble incoming drones exist. When the last s300/400 in Crimea is taken out is Ukraine attack aircraft going to conduct JDAM airstrikes inside Crimea without VKS challenge? That is a good possibility.

SolarWarden said:

No it's actually very reasonable speculation you just don't like it because it makes the VKS and its flankers look really bad. For about a year now Ukraine has been sending drones inside Russian airspace when are we going to see HUD footage of VKS fighters shooting down these drones? If footage existed MOD would happily release these kinds of videos of their air force shooting down drones over Russian airspace but there's no footage because they don't exist and they don't exist because VKS CAP don't exist. Not even alert fighters to scramble incoming drones exist. When the last s300/400 in Crimea is taken out is Ukraine attack aircraft going to conduct JDAM airstrikes inside Crimea without VKS challenge? That is a good possibility.

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Yes VKS CAP simply doesn't exist, just like the defenses in the south doesn't exist and all it takes is some Abrams and Bradleys to drive right through... That was a good possibility according to you last year.

I don't know if you're simply severely propagandized or have a more vested interest in promoting the same failed narrative over and over, but this is maybe the 5-7th wunderwaffen/game changer moment now.

I'm tired, boss.

Wake me up when Ukraine shows it can meaningfully deplete Russian forces. Wars are won by logistics not clips of tactical combat combined with bombastic baseless assertations that javelin/himars/ghostofkiev/leopards/bradley/abrams/ and now F-16 will win the war singlehandedly ANY moment™ now.