I feel like these types of decisions are made with a little more nuance then you are implying... or at least I hope they are!
The War in the Ukraine
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I feel like these types of decisions are made with a little more nuance then you are implying... or at least I hope they are!
Yeah the Turtle Tank might look dumb, but in an environment chock full of FPV drones with HEAT rounds and cluster ammunition it seems to do what it's meant to do.
Now if Ukraine actually got HE laser guided artillery ammo again things might be different. We don't seem to see their Krasnopol clone as much as we used to.
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Is there anything in the Western arsenal similar since Copperhead was discontinued?
Last time I saw Copperhead was estimated at 70K per round, Excalibur 100K per round
I guess to Western militaries, the GPS is worth the 30K, but considering the scale the war is operating at, this is possibly millions a month.
Excalibur is apparently useless. Just doesn't work in the EW heavy environment.
Production in Ukraine is probably not going very fast or in a big scale. Static things of value are bombed... Poland have an equivalent in 155mm but I don't think it's in production.
Potential destruction of three MiG-29 fighters and other Ukrainian aircraft plus storage facilities when this airfield gets hit with cluster munitions.
Iskander strikes on a Ukrainian S-300. Distance around 100km from the front.
Mass interception of MLRS rockets over Belgorod.
Ukrainian vehicle gets hit by FPV drone in the Rabotino Verbove area. By the BOBMORF aka Beaver detachment.
RBK-500 cluster bombs arriving all over Ukrainian positions in Niu York.
Russian artillery takes out a Ukrainian mortar site near the border.
Ukrainians are hiding artillery in residential sectors of Chasiv Yar. But they are still found and successfully targeted. By Sever-V.
Pipeline explosion in Kharkhiv region.
Su-25s in close support missions over Chasiv Yar.
Missiles that struck the Chernigov hotel might be an R-500 also known as Iskander-K. This one is a stealthy subsonic cruise missile (RCS 0.03 sqm) as opposed to a ballistic rocket. While overshadowed in use by its ballistic counterpart, the Iskander-M, the Iskander-K has been increasingly employed significantly over time.
Report of another IRIS-T that might have been destroyed in strikes in Dnipropetrovsk.
TOS arriving in Ukrainian positions. By the Mad Dogs detachment.
TM-62 antitank mines seen on the ground by FPV drone before it strikes a hut used by Ukrainian soldiers.
M113 trophy in the Artemovosk direction.
Iskander strikes on a Ukrainian S-300. Distance around 100km from the front.
Mass interception of MLRS rockets over Belgorod.
Ukrainian vehicle gets hit by FPV drone in the Rabotino Verbove area. By the BOBMORF aka Beaver detachment.
RBK-500 cluster bombs arriving all over Ukrainian positions in Niu York.
Russian artillery takes out a Ukrainian mortar site near the border.
Ukrainians are hiding artillery in residential sectors of Chasiv Yar. But they are still found and successfully targeted. By Sever-V.
Pipeline explosion in Kharkhiv region.
Su-25s in close support missions over Chasiv Yar.
Missiles that struck the Chernigov hotel might be an R-500 also known as Iskander-K. This one is a stealthy subsonic cruise missile (RCS 0.03 sqm) as opposed to a ballistic rocket. While overshadowed in use by its ballistic counterpart, the Iskander-M, the Iskander-K has been increasingly employed significantly over time.
Report of another IRIS-T that might have been destroyed in strikes in Dnipropetrovsk.
TOS arriving in Ukrainian positions. By the Mad Dogs detachment.
TM-62 antitank mines seen on the ground by FPV drone before it strikes a hut used by Ukrainian soldiers.
M113 trophy in the Artemovosk direction.
Link says shot down 400km inside Russia territory .. seems unreal
Yeah and Ukraine wants us to imagine how it was happened by simple video release of a control room without a context. I guess when Russian aircraft downed in Kamchatka, they will make the claim too.
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People already imagining how S-200 does that but this calls for some scrutiny namely :
-If the 5V28 missile was unmodified, how does Ukrainian ensure their CW Illumination from their 5N62 Radar, remain covert and how they got to illuminate the bomber in the first place in such long range without provoking the RHAWS or by just simple duck maneuver by the bomber to cut down the horizon.
-If the 5V28 was modified using Active radar homing seeker, who was providing the mid course for the missile and how. Mid course requires datalink antenna and this means deeper surgery into 5V28 airframe to ensure that the datalink works and probably modification of trajectory to ensure the missile is always within the view of the main datalink provider.
Using starlink ? well does starlink work for Mach 4-5 missile ?
It would not be the first time a Tu-22M3 crashed due to pilot error or mechanical failure.
It is a 40 year old aircraft at this point. And for whatever reason the Tu-22M3M upgrade program seems to have stalled as of late.
The only way I see them downing an aircraft so deep into Russia would be if they smuggled in MANPADS and used them close to the airbase. But that is kind of unlikely to be the case here.
It is a 40 year old aircraft at this point. And for whatever reason the Tu-22M3M upgrade program seems to have stalled as of late.
The only way I see them downing an aircraft so deep into Russia would be if they smuggled in MANPADS and used them close to the airbase. But that is kind of unlikely to be the case here.
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