The War in the Ukraine

Sinnavuuty

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Source: Operator 13

The NATO Air Force entered the territory of Ukraine to practice strikes on Crimea

"Against the background of a published conversation between German generals about the attacks on the Crimean Bridge, three NATO aircraft flew into Ukrainian airspace from Romania today.

Two F 16s and one F 35. The planes simulated missile strikes from the territory of the Mykolaiv region in the Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Among other things, Patriot air defense systems and 3 mobile radars in the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions actively accompanied these three aircraft.

In addition to practicing strikes on the Crimea, the F 35 aircraft actively tried to track the location of Russian radars and radar on the front line.

The entire operation lasted about 32 minutes, after which all the planes left Ukrainian airspace.

We have already written that American fighters will be based in Romania. The peculiarity of the F-16 is their "capriciousness")) The runway needs to be perfectly smooth. There are no such people in Ukraine.

The West is escalating the conflict, which will inevitably spread beyond the borders of Ukraine. But not with tank battles, but with missile strikes on NATO infrastructure."

If Russia does not stop this trend of NATO escalation of the conflict, a major war is inevitable. Force can only be broken by force, not by impotent threats, no matter how terrible they are. Nuclear test explosions, strikes on NATO military installations involved in this war, can stop the escalation of the conflict on the part of NATO. Sergey Lavrov will not stop this.
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Right now, NATO intelligence is working in the Black Sea:

1. Turkish helicopter Lenorado AW 109 Call sign "A139"

2. Israeli call sign Bombardier Challenger 604 Serial number "MABGG" Call sign "CL 60"

3. Call sign of the USAF Global Hawk drone "FORTE 10" (currently in the Black Sea, at a distance of 100-120 km from the Crimean Peninsula)

4. Turkish call sign Bombardier Challenger 650 serial "TCERM" "CL 60"

5. Turkish Navy call sign ATR 72 - 600 "MARTI 62.

Flight data analysis:

1. It appears that some high-ranking Israeli Air Force officers are flying to Ukraine.

2. An attack with unmanned boats by the Ukrainian is not excluded.

3. Today there was a massive attack on Crimea using drones, therefore a massive missile attack is not excluded in the next 24-72 hours, and NATO intelligence began its work immediately after the attack.
 
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Tam

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203mm Malka SPG knocks out a Polish Krab.

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YPR-765 gets knocked out by FPV drones.

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Today's daily bombing of Ukrainian positions on the right bank of the Dniepr often by FABs.

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Lancet takes out a D-30 howitzer of the AFU.

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Buk-M1 or a couple of Buk-M1 gets destroyed by Tornado-S.

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TOS-1A on the Gulyaypol area.

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Cluster bomb RBK-500 hits Ukrainian positions.

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More FABs arriving on Ukrainian positions.

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FABs arriving on Olhatvatka, Kharkhiv region.

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FABs arriving in Ochertino, Avdeyevka direction.

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FPV drones from the Sparta Battalion takes out Ukrainian tanks and IFV in the Avdeyevka direction.

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Arrival of more FABs.

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AFU radio intelligence station Plastun gets taken out by drones.

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Krab SPG gets taken out by Krasnopol with Orlan providing lasing.

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These look like nasty strikes. Ukrainian temporary deployment points are struck in Mirnograd.

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sheogorath

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Besides, won’t the Russian guns have the same issues as the Ukrainians did in firing high pressured Chinese rounds from soviet guns?
Better and more regular maintenance could probably help mitigate that risk, or if units with refurbished/new guns are the ones getting these rounds. Russia does have more options to mitigate the risk than Ukraine, at least.
 

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sheogorath

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Apparently another Abrams fall, along with a BTR's. natural to question what was Ukrainians thinking when deploying the beast, especially air support wise. many claims of Russians does not have air superiority but, that doesnt seem to correlate with Ukrainian's own air superiority.

A guess is that they are just running out of vehicles at this point, at least at that particular spot in the front line so they have to send what they have available.

The issue is that they are using NATO equipment with what seems half-assed Soviet tactics, which is a recipe for disaster.
 

Sinnavuuty

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A guess is that they are just running out of vehicles at this point, at least at that particular spot in the front line so they have to send what they have available.

The issue is that they are using NATO equipment with what seems half-assed Soviet tactics, which is a recipe for disaster.
The information I read recently is that the 47th Mechanized Brigade completely removed the Leo 2A6 and transferred it to another brigade and took over all the Abrams, this would be the formation since before the start of the counteroffensive, but there was no time to form the 47th Mechanized Brigade to time with Abrams to try to advance south towards Robotyne, beginning this deployment months after the start of the counteroffensive but which is now in the process of completion.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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so these aircrafts were just flying around western ukraine? I just see a random map and 3 dots in them and no SAR claims form those aircraft. if he managed to get sensitive flight data of those aircrafts than he should have also received the supposedly claimed SAR images of those SAM sites from those aircrafts.
SAR imaging of targets is not the norm as radar is not an inherently imaging technique but a scatterometry technique.

The data return from radar is a range given by time of flight, velocity given by Doppler shift, and azimuthal/elevation angles. So position in radial coordinates + velocity.

Releasing such data to the public during an active conflict would be extremely unusual and sensitive.
 

tankphobia

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Apparently another Abrams fall, along with a BTR's. natural to question what was Ukrainians thinking when deploying the beast, especially air support wise. many claims of Russians does not have air superiority but, that doesnt seem to correlate with Ukrainian's own air superiority.
What's there to question? Destroyed 2A6 footage appeared not too long after deployment. If Russian stocks were heavily attritied in the war the situation for Ukraine can only be worse since they have a smaller tank force to begin with.

It can simply be a case of Ukraine running out of usable tanks and having to plug the gap with anything. It should be treated with the same fanfare as destroyed t-90, which is, shit happens.
 
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