The War in the Ukraine

Santamaria

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In the immediate aftermath it looks like Russian will use the momentum and chase the troops falling back, there are already reports that Russians are on the outskirts of Lastochkyne where some of the Avdeevka garrison have retreated to.

Beyond that it looks like siege of Chasiv Yar will come soon.
Chasov Yar and Lyman seems the most logical places.

Without Lyman is impossible to attack Slaviansk and Chasov Yar is necessary to take to Kostiantynivka. Kostiantynivka is necessary to take Kramatorsk.

I think the axis Kramators Slaviansk seems to be the most important think the Russians can currently take. For that they need Chasov Yar and Lyman.

How long can take to take this places? Maybe a couple of months? This would open the possibility of Kramatorsk Sloviansk in early summer.
 

Tam

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Arrivals at Kharkhiv. Back to business as usual.

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Despite pockets of resistance from Ukrainians whose communications are cut off, mappers have already given the entire Avdiivka to the Russians, including 9th District and the coke plant.

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Back to business as usual. M777 gets knocked out by Lancet from the VDV in Bakhmut region.

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Base of AFU UAV operators hit by artillery of the 238th Brigade.

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No. 3 coal mine near Ugledar gets hit. The region is warming up.

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AFU mortar nest gets hit in the right bank of Kherson. Ukrainian support elements of the Krynki beachhead continues to be decimated.

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Arrivals in Kramatorsk and Kirovograd.

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Arrivals in Slavaynsk.

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Ukrainian positions and vehicles burning after artillery strikes from the 70th Brigade.

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Ukrainian MT-LB hit by FPV drone flown through the open door.

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Putin formally congratulates the Russian military for their success on Avdiivka.

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Ukrainian positions hit by artillery of the 42nd Brigade in Zaporozhye. Pattern developing here, signs of a front wide offensive operation.

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Another M777 knocked out by Lancet from the VDV, this time in Kherson as the Russians continue to target AFU support for Krynki.

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Two FABs arriving in Kupyansk.

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Another Ukrainian howitzer taken out by Lancet.

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Arrivals in Poltava.

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Ukrainian vehicle taken out by ATGM at night by the VDV.

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Before the surrender. FABs hitting Avdiivka residential area.

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Ukrainian squad hit by ATGM at night in Zaporozhye.

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There were still as many as 900 civilians still living in Avdiivka in basements.

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FABs arriving in Staromayorsky.

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Kadyrov with Col. Gen Mordichev. Mordichev commanded the capture of Mariupol and now Avdiivka.

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AFU observation post in the Donetsk direction done in by Krasnopol.

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New X-69 cruise missiles were used by Russians in the first time in February raids.

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ODAB-1500 hit on a Ukrainian temporary deployment point in Soledar direction. Note again, this bomb is thermobaric.

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gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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This conflict was supposed to make Russia weaker. Instead it finally convinced the Russian brass to invest in modern drones and standoff weapons.

Weapons which were basically experimental were put into mass production and perfected. Like the Lancet loitering munition, or the Supercam recon drone. Now we have this X-69 stealth cruise missile. Development of stealth cruise missiles for tactical bombers had been stuck in limbo in Russia for basically a decade. New weapon systems like the UMPK guidance module for FAB-500 and FAB-1500 bombs and software modifications to use it for the fighter bombers were developed basically after the conflict started. FPV drones are being mass produced. Mass production of FPV drones only happened since like last year after huge resistance to their introduction.

Other things which are less visible. Serial production of new extended range Grad rockets with 40 km range. Which gives the regular Grad the same range as the older Uragan system. Because of the huge stockpile of cheap older Grad rockets this wasn't being seriously pursued until the conflict actually happened. There also seems to be experimentation with replacements for the Uragan. Something which had also been stuck in limbo. We will see if it produces results or not. The Kinzhal was upgraded to allow entering target coordinates in mid flight. A more modern and cheaper mass produced version of Krasnopol was introduced.

All of this makes the Russian Army way more lethal than it used to be in conventional warfare. By the time the conflict ends NATO might also lose the advantage it had versus Russia in mid range artillery after the late 1990s. Basically a return to form to back when Soviet artillery used to be better not just quantitatively but qualitatively than NATO one.

As for NATO they seem to be doubling down on production of existing air defense systems and mid range artillery which previously were only available in limited numbers. There is a huge paraphernalia of drones being produced for Ukraine, but only in limited numbers, with highly variable quality. None of the NATO countries seems to be taking the conflict seriously enough either despite lip service to the contrary. They still seem to think this is just about passing some checks.
 

Atomicfrog

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None of the NATO countries seems to be taking the conflict seriously enough either despite lip service to the contrary. They still seem to think this is just about passing some checks.
It looks like the governments of EU NATO are in Limbo about what to do. It's not only the conflict that's troublesome it's the situation they are stuck with.

Maybe EU NATO countries are counting for the war to end and hoping that cheap Russian gaz supplies will resume after it. Like a jerk that make problems to everyone and think that people they bother will continue to act like nothing happened when they calm down.

We didn't hear anything about doing nuclear reactors asap for energy or how to resolve the situation after the dust come down. They could even start to eat each others.
 

Zichan

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According to CNN, Ukraine suffered casualties and POWs in its withdrawal from Avdiivka:

“The Ukrainian withdrawal to more favorable defensive lines appears to have come at a cost, as Russian units mined some routes. And ISW warns that “Ukrainian forces may have to stabilize the frontline by counter-attacking in the area where Russian forces are trying to close the encirclement of Ukrainian forces in Avdiivka in order to conduct an orderly withdrawal.”

“There are already indications that not all Ukrainian units were able to escape an ever-tightening noose. Oleksandr Tarnavskyi, Commander of the Tavria group defending the area, said Saturday that the withdrawal was carried out in accordance with the plan that had been developed “and yet, a number of Ukrainian servicemen were taken prisoner at the final stage of the operation, under pressure from the enemy’s superior forces.”

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Atomicfrog

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