The War in the Ukraine

Kejora

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I'm surprised Ukraine hasn't use convicts yet. Pretty sure using able bodied criminals is better that disabled people.
 

Tam

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Ukrainian SPG spotted hiding in forest line in Kherson along with personnel. Gets destroyed by precise artillery attack by the VDV.

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Lancet takes out another Ukrainian SPG, a M109, in a forest line near Tyaginka in Kherson. It's obvious from the Kherson strikes the Ukrainians are trying to reinforce their Krynki beachhead with artillery.

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Tugboat and motorboat pusher BMK-T used by the Ukrainians gets destroyed by Russian drones.

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Lancet takes out a Ukrainian 2S1 Gvozdika in the right bank of Kherson.

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Brief summary of combat reports in Kherson.

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Russian MoD reports the destruction of two IRIS systems, along with an M109 and a Gvozdika (matching the Lancet videos). Also destroyed is a motorboat locomotive pusher (BMK-T), boats and cars. [I am going to presume here it's the IRIS systems responsible for the Su-34 takedown].

Ukrainians frequently report FPV drone attacks on Russians in Kherson. It turns out that some attacks end up targeting the local civilian population.

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No coincidence after the two IRIS systems were eliminated, the Russians started FABing Krynki again.

Here on Ukrainian deployment points or force concentrations.

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New briefing summary on the Dniepr front. Notable kills include an M777 and a 2S1 Gvozdika [sounds like typical Lancet victims].

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A masked Ukrainian SPG gets hit by a Lancet on the right bank of the Dniepr. I would presume this to be the 2S1 Gvozdika mentioned earlier.

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Artillery from Group O takes out the remnants of an AFU armored column.

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Ukrainian ammo depot in the Kupyansk front gets destroyed.

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Also in the Kupyansk front, two Ukrainian SPGs gets knocked out by Krasnopol.

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TOS working on Novomikhailovka, ahead of a Russian assault.

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Chinese national 38 year old Zhao Zhui reported killed fighting for the Russian side. Reported by Phoenix TV.

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Incident where one Ukrainian soldier threw a grenade at his own comrades in the heat and panic of battle. Fortunately no one was killed but the assault was called off.


The craziest artillery bombardment ever on Novomikhailovka.

 

lcloo

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The math doesn't work like this. Even if we assume a high estimate of 100k irrecoverable casualties, that is still only a small fraction of Ukraine's population.

During the Warring States era, Zhao lost 400k soldiers in the Battle of Changping, yet they were still able to resist Qin for decades and even inflict severe defeats upon the latter.
Looking at the demographic structure of Ukraine, the impact of getting 500,000 fresh recruits is very siginificant especial for the age group between 15 to 40 years old. Example Ukrainian Male age 22 is lesss than 100,000.

They would have to recruit those between aged 40 to aged 60. And many from this aged group are already on the frontline, either alive or killed.

And also consider that millions have already left Ukraine.

I believe the demographics in ancient agricutural society in China may resemble that of today's Pakistan, i.e. a Pyramid structure where the able body people would be the majority which would help in replenishing those who were killed.

Ukraine_2023_population_pyramid.jpg
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Ukraine's population is 40 million. Assuming a quarter of that is men fit for combat duty, that's still a pool of 10 million recruits.

So even if their irrecoverable casualty is one million, that's still well below replenishment levels.

Let's not forget that the Soviet Union suffered 27 million dead against in WW2 with a population of 200 million.
what was the median age of Soviets in WW2 vs. median age of Ukraine now?

what about the population age distribution?

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There are less than 100k 20 year old men.
 

Tam

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Destroyed AS-90.

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14th Brigade Kalmius knocks out Ukrainian vehicles via Krasnopol in the Donbass.

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In the Kupyansk front, a Ukrainian tank tried to hide under the bridge but gets hit by a Lancet nonetheless.

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Russians counterattacking deep into Rabotino and Verbove.

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BMP firing it's 30mm gun on Ukrainian infantry then escapes under heavy enemy fire. This during the Russians counterattacking in the Rabotino Verbove front. Regardless of the vulnerabilities of IFVs, they still play an important role.

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Destroyed Polish PT-91 tank in Rabotino, likely by mine and FPV drones.

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TOS used on Ukrainian positions in Krynki.

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Shelter used by Ukrainians in Artemovosk front gets destroyed by an FPV drone sent into it. By the 102nd Regiment.

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New Ukrainian armored vest adapted for women.

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Russian soldier saws away an unexploded US M864 cluster munitions in order to obtain it's bomblets for drone bombs. It should be noted that Ukrainians also do the same thing on M864s.

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A new kamekaze drone based on the Supercam drone is being developed. Currently the Supercam operates as a reconnaissance drone. The drone will be tied to use on a BMP-3.

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Russian recovery vehicle, equipped with cope cage

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Work of the 123rd Brigade on Ukrainian fortifications with an MT-12 Rapira in Berestovaya.

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Stryker covered with cope cages tow away stuck Ukrainian pickups.

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M109 fires while covered with anti-Lancet cope nets. But as we have seen before, thanks to a new warhead on the Lancet, these cope nets don't work.

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Ukrainian tanks getting hit. Still pics only, so no aftermath of their eventual fate.

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Another Chinese volunteer with the Russian forces, Xiao Qiang (middle). He was reportedly injured from a drone bomb drop. His colleague Zhao Zhu on the right has been reported by Phoenix TV as having been killed.

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Seversk-V working on the flanks of Bogdanovka in support of the assault there. Here they suppressed a Ukrainian machine nest with artillery or mortar fire.

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LawLeadsToPeace

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Another Chinese volunteer with the Russian forces, Xiao Qiang (middle). He was reportedly injured from a drone bomb drop. His colleague Zhao Zhu on the right has been reported by Phoenix TV as having been killed.

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Quick correction: the KIA Chinese volunteer’s name is Zhao Rui. I believe he volunteered to fight in Myanmar before the Ukraine War kicked off.
 
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