The War in the Ukraine

Proton said:

Don't the majority of Krasnopol rounds used have 25km of range, while the range of most Excaliburs used have 40km?

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40km with GPS guidance. GPS can be jammed. It is much harder to jam the laser guided rounds.
There is also a GLONASS guided version of Krasnopol, called Krasnopol-D, with 43km range.

Proton said:

As for the Tornado-S I don't think we have seen any confirmed pinpoint strikes from this system the entire war? At the very least it seems very rare. How much of the 9М542 rocket is really produced/used?

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Did you look at the firing on the railroad a couple days ago? That was done with Tornado-S.
I think it was less of problem of lack of missiles, but more of a problem of lack of upgraded launchers. But that is being rectified.

Proton said:

Also the reconnaissance satellites feeding the Ukrainians might be key to HIMARS successes.
"Problem" with satellite targeting compared to drone targeting is that the former won't give any videos recording the strikes.

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The Russians have launched like half a dozen recon satellites since the conflict started. So that is much less of an issue. What Russia lacks is the dozens of private recon satellites the US has which lower revisit time. If you examine actual government capabilities, US capabilities are not as substantial. The US has only six KH-11 optical reconnaissance satellites. But yeah the Russians have even less with only two Persona satellites. Outside the US only China has large optical satellite constellations.

Stealthflanker said:

What is the majority of Ukrainian artillery nowadays tho ? dont they still use considerable amount of Soviet era guns ? Also regarding excaliburs, how many western guns compatible with it.

While Krasnopol is basically can be used by any Russian 152mm artillery like Akatisya and MSTA's. Meaning every single battery Russian had can fire precision munitions while the Ukrainian precision munition battery are limited to Western guns. thus loss of a say MSTA battery would not degrade Russian ability to keep spamming Krasnopols as everyone with 152 mm gun can use it.

While loss of say M777 or M-109 is a loss of precision strike ability within that battery's coverage.

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Haven't heard anything of a lack of artillery systems being the bottleneck for either side, but rather the amount of ammunition available.
The availability of Excalibur m982 for Ukraine should be in the magnitude of 10 rounds a day.

Attack of Gerans on Ukrainian Military Unit A1201 of the 62nd Arsenal, Kirovograd region, Bogdanovka village. This base is used in the storage of ammunition and equipment. After the Geran strikes, many areas have been marked off in the satellite image, which are indicative they may have been damaged or destroyed.


Gerans also struck ammunition and weapons storage, particularly of artillery and missiles, at Kryvyi Rhi.


More FAB bombs towards Ukrainian deployment points and DRGs at the Kherson Region.


Obviously laser guided, lasing from an Orlan. But the strike weapon this time is a Product 305 LMUR, and the missile is slow enough to be seen hitting it's target, a Ukrainian deployment point and shelter.


Artillery hits from the 68th Army at targets in Kostiantynivka and Novomikhailovka in the Yuzhno-Donestsk front.


Confirming that these two bridge strikes in the Kupyansk region were Kh-38 strikes. These strikes cut off routes to the front behind Ukrainian lines.


Another air strike at the Ukrainian side of Dniepr.


Multiple air strikes with precision munitions against Ukrainian positions in Avdiivka.


This time a FAB-1500, not 500 not 250, you heard me right One Five Oh Oh, hit on an AFU ammo depot at Kostiantynivka.

gelgoog said:

40km with GPS guidance. GPS can be jammed. It is much harder to jam the laser guided rounds.
There is also a GLONASS guided version of Krasnopol, called Krasnopol-D, with 43km range.


Did you look at the firing on the railroad a couple days ago? That was done with Tornado-S.
I think it was less of problem of lack of missiles, but more of a problem of lack of upgraded launchers. But that is being rectified.


The Russians have launched like half a dozen recon satellites since the conflict started. So that is much less of an issue. What Russia lacks is the dozens of private recon satellites the US has which lower revisit time. If you examine actual government capabilities, US capabilities are not as substantial. The US has only six KH-11 optical reconnaissance satellites. But yeah the Russians have even less with only two Persona satellites. Outside the US only China has large optical satellite constellations.

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It's a weakness. On the other hand they don't rely on a drone with laser pointing capabilities, making them more flexible.
Kransopol-D seem to be barely more than a prototype, while the 40km Excalibur is the main one, the shorter range variants not even being in production for over a decade.

The train carrying heavy equipment, being hit by a single rocket?
Maybe that was Tornado-S, but why wasn't it hit by 3 or 4 rockets then, are the launchers limited to a single rocket?
But sure the Tornado-S might be coming online, I just don't expect Russia to produce nearly as many precision rockets for these as there are GMLRS for Ukraine.

Tam said:

The Kh-38 air to ground missile is one munition we are seeing more lately but has been unjustly eclipsed by other munition systems in the media and often misidentified, including by me. After some thought, we may actually have seen more Kh-38 attacks in video but are mislabeled by something else such as FAB or KAB, or not properly credited at all, with the attacks being generically labeled as air or artillery strikes. My apologies, I am starting to think some attacks I posted previously might be actually be Kh-38.

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Today, Sergei Shoigu visited the production facilities of the Tactical Missile Armaments Corporation (KTRV), which produces virtually all airborne guided weapons. In addition to footage of UMPC production we posted earlier (

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), the video features fragments of the assembly of the Kh-38M air-to-surface missile, which hits targets at a distance of up to 40 kilometres. This short-range missile is actively used by Russian aviation in the SMO zone. However, more curious was the production of the Grom missile complex, which is a unique type of weapon. Earlier there were recorded single cases of (

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) use of this bomb-missile, however, judging by the footage, Grom has gone into serial production and soon the number of items fired on Ukrainian positions will only increase.

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Ukrainian soldiers trained abroad express discontent: 'I repeatedly told them NATO manuals didn't apply'​

Tam said:

Confirming that these two bridge strikes in the Kupyansk region were Kh-38 strikes. These strikes cut off routes to the front behind Ukrainian lines.

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If russia plans on a major offensive in this area then this is huge. can potentially round up a lot of ukrainian forces.

The counteroffensive is proving much more difficult than war planners and armchair experts estimated.

According to that article Russia actually is coming ahead in terms of captured land since Ukraine's counteroffensive started.

Russia is also shaping up the area in the north, they will likely make a push for the Oskol river soon.

gelgoog said:

According to that article Russia actually is coming ahead in terms of captured land since Ukraine's counteroffensive started.

Russia is also shaping up the area in the north, they will likely make a push for the Oskol river soon.

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looks about right scanning that map in the bottom part the red and blue areas cancel each other out but once the border goes vertical its all small gains for Russia.

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The counteroffensive is proving much more difficult than war planners and armchair experts estimated.

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Gains or loss of ground control this summer are more or less who is shelling more the no man's land, were nothing exist anymore...

It's how healthy the two armies are that is more important.