You cannot pass tanks on that dam:
Not sure that you can pass with a full loaded truck... better to let it in one piece at this rate.
The War in the Ukraine
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Not sure that you can pass with a full loaded truck... better to let it in one piece at this rate.
Apparently, they didn't detonate, as the LPR and the GRU are moving into the region. Although I saw many MT-LB crossing the river, many tanks were seen going in that region.
I doubt the AFU will detonate the dam, the river runs from Northwest (Belgorod) to the Sea of Azov, which would flood an equivalent area between Mykolaivka Power Plant to Siverks, which would totally kill the ability to basically supply troops in Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, which is already extremely difficult in Siversk and impossible on the Bakhmut-Lysychansk road. It would totally condemn the Ukrainians in the region.
What doesn't really make sense is to detonate the bridges there. It seems to me that it was a sign of desperation on the part of the AFU when the Russians arrived in Lyman and had taken Yampil.
As for the dam, from the photos on google, you can't really pass. So, probably, the common bridge is not damaged enough to prevent tanks from crossing, as that was the way that part of the troops that were in Lyman took. As the Russians already have control of Staryi Karavan and we didn't hear of an attempt to blow up the bridge until the Russians gained control, so it's possible the bridge is still crossable.
I don't know how long the image that the RWA tweet posted is, but the bridge seems pretty bridgeable to me. You can pass the MT-LBs, BMPs and BTRs across the river, while the APCs pass one at a time across the bridge. From what I researched, the river has a flow of 20 m³/s in this section, which is not a big problem for BTRs, MT-LBs and BMPs.
Yep would have been better to finish-up that bridge, the dam is useless for military vehicules. Even if the bridge is damaged, they could use a MTU-72 on top of the most damaged part to make it sure for MBT.
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It’s it well established by now that Ukrainian shelling killed the poor An225?
The best thing Ukrainian may have probably GMLRS, or guided MLRS rocket for their HIMARS and M-270's seems to be improvements over their Uragan, Grad and Smerch.
In the Odessa region, they tried to repair the Zatoka bridge, but the Russians broke it for good:
In this case, the southern side of Odessa Oblast is totally isolated from the rest of Ukraine, as well as Odessa being able to receive supplies from NATO via Romania.
In this case, the southern side of Odessa Oblast is totally isolated from the rest of Ukraine, as well as Odessa being able to receive supplies from NATO via Romania.
It's showing up on American news as well as Russian, so it seems likely to be true.
If America thinks cancelling the missiles will make Russia softer on lifting the blockage they are mistaken. Long range missiles wouldn't have much of a difference, a lot of Russian terrority is already under artillery range.
Letting a NATO naval convoy into Ukrainian ports however would be a big boost for Ukraine and NATO. If they can ship it via the sea they can earn billions and that would allow more NATO military support. Without port access they will either have to destroy the grain or hand over to the Russians. They would also be able to bring in humanitarian aid much cheaper, and it opens up the possibility of military shipments by sea. The only option for Russia other than to attack the convoy would be an offensive against Nikolaev and Odessa. That would be reactionary and would likely lead to the destruction of cities that Russia wants to keep.
A NATO military escort is the start of WW3 IMO.
America would have been wiser to insist on the MRLS,, unless they've completely given up on the Ukraine.