The War in the Ukraine

Michaelsinodef

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The Ukrainian military is doing the exact same thing the rebels in Syria did during the Aleppo offensives. Why would you conduct offensives in open terrain without air cover? Doesn’t make any type of sense. This goes with my theory that Kiev is more interested in eye catching click bait headlines than actual military results. These offensives are just a desperate attempt to raise soldiers morale because in the Donbas front Ukrainian resolve is starting to crack. Morale is in the toilet. So they are trying these brain dead propaganda offensives to show the Ukrainian military is still an effective fighting force. In the end they are hurting themselves.
Doesn't make sense militarily.

But the thing is, wars aren't just fought between to militaries, a war at this scale is also a war between countries.

Furthermore, we don't have a good idea of how much sovereignty Ukraine actually have (other countries like US and England, most likely have a lot of control over Ukrainian leaders, furthermore they might even have different interests and goals in mind).
 

Atomicfrog

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What the hell, below market value?
100 000 ??? How do we shot them even in practice ? We have about 25 m777 left... and on these some have not been delivered. They will rot even more before they are used. Tube service length is only 1750-2000 rounds... would be over 4000 per gun with that shipment.
 
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plawolf

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100 000 ??? How do we shot them even in practice ? We have about 25 m777 left... and on these some have not been delivered. They will rot even more before they are used. Tube service length is only 1750-2000 rounds... would be over 4000 per gun with that shipment.
Don’t worry, I’m sure America would be happy to take them off your hands. After you have paid for them, and for a further substantial discount on what you paid the South Koreans.

They can then ‘donate’ them to the Ukrainians to be paid from that $40bn ‘aid package’, at market rates plus a hefty mark up for reasons. An ‘aid package’ Ukraine would be required to repay in full and with interest.

This should fully demonstrate that America is only supporting Ukraine to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian for totally selfless morally principled reasons and not at all for profits. Perish the thought!
 

Suetham

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UPDATE: DPR has declared Dibrova fully released and they are moving to Staryi Karavan to cross the river and attack Raihorodok, towards Slovyansky.

The railway bridge has been destroyed, the other is already damaged and the third is... A DAM! If they detonate, those who live downstream are beyond screwed; if they don't detonate, it doesn't even make sense to have exploded the other two...


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supersnoop

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Sorry, but that’s not how these things work.

As they so succinctly put it in the military, shit only rolls downhill.

Canada, being a higher skin colour status American ally, gets to roll their shit downhill to lower skin colour American ally South Korea.

Thus Canada sends 20k probably close to or even past their use-by date shells to Ukraine and gets 100% of the kudos for their ‘selfless sacrifice’ while SK is directed to sell 100k of their own new shells that they paid full price on at a significant discount to the Canadians and gets zero freedom points.

I would not be surprised if Canada doesn’t end up making a net profit on this in the end.
Canada has factories to manufacture 155mm Shells, however they are all owned by General Dynamics, a US company.
This must mean the GD order book is full already. Probably even the US has no more ammunition...
 

Atomicfrog

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UPDATE: DPR has declared Dibrova fully released and they are moving to Staryi Karavan to cross the river and attack Raihorodok, towards Slovyansky.

The railway bridge has been destroyed, the other is already damaged and the third is... A DAM! If they detonate, those who live downstream are beyond screwed; if they don't detonate, it doesn't even make sense to have exploded the other two...


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It's most likely that you cannot cross with tanks on that dam anyway ... Diprova, wow ! They are advancing faster and faster!
 

Suetham

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It's most likely that you cannot cross with tanks on that dam anyway ... Diprova, wow ! They are advancing faster and faster!
The AFU troops that retreated from Lyman would have gone in two directions, one being the direction of Dibrova-Yampil and Shchurove, but it is also said that AFU tanks crossed Donetsk and arrived in Raihorodok, which is strange. A month ago, the AFU posted a video with the destruction of a bridge that would prevent the Russians from reaching Slovyansky, but I think the information was incorrect and it is about the bridge at another point. However, the other alternative is precisely this dam in the region, which is a few meters from the bridges supposedly detonated. The AFU could not destroy the dam or would threaten to flood areas they defended themselves, as they were prohibited from retreating by the General Staff command, there are even reports of "decimation" by AFU officers.
 
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