Poland went on a shopping spree in South Korea
from breakingdefense . com: Oct 2022: Since late July, Poland has inked agreements with South Korea to purchase 1,000 K2 tanks, 672 K9 self-propelled howitzers,
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from breakingdefense . com: Oct 2022: Since late July, Poland has inked agreements with South Korea to purchase 1,000 K2 tanks, 672 K9 self-propelled howitzers,
I still wonder how Poland will pay, mantain or man all that, I think they just made a big order to stimulate defense industry, such a poor and small country can not afford all that.
The Ka-52 hunt continues, another 4 AFU vehicles terminated:
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Poland is not poor. The order is still huge though.
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Yes, that may be the next step. That is, for what Europe has to be prepared.
Poland has a larger economy than Norway and Singapore lmao, the idea that they're poor is wide of the mark
Ive lived there 2017-2021, in Lodz and Warsaw.
It is not a poor country worldwide, of course, but it is not a rich country.
Above all, economically it is just another German Lander.
And their independence in any aspect is 0, if they get those tanks they will be because Germany wants them to have them and finance them, if on the other hand Germany decides to use this or another mechanism Poland will not be able to finance them.
Again, it all depends on what Germany decides for Europe in general, the situation on the continent has not changed from the debt crisis of 2012 or the refugee crisis for example.
The economic war is having a huge impact on families too, as we can see with the AgroUnia thing and yet another row of protest agains Kaczynski ...
Well offtopic topic...
Well, presume they will be delivered in decade(s) if ever.
If we consider that Poland used to make tanks, then it is quite bad state of affairs.
Anyway, I try to reword it, because few miss the point:
what we obesrve is the same dinamics like during the 2nd WW between Germany and CCCP/USA.
Germany (or Japan) hasn't got the raw materials, due to that they had to dedicate huge part of the industry to make things that naturaly flow from the ground in Texas and Azer .
Means they had very slow and painfull indsutrial development of weapons, example submarines. Germans started the war with a capable submarine fleet, but the huge insdustrial capacity of the USA managed to negate it in few years.
USA manufactured more aircraft carrier per year at the end of the war than the whole Japan fleet at it best.
Now, we observe the same dinamics, just this time the NATO+UKRAINE vs Russia fight the NATO playing the Germans role.
we are in the 2nd year of the war, and the Russian side already mass producing the new generations of weapons, based on wartime experience.
Like gliding bombs, Lancet, EW, stramlined mass produced tanks, infantry carriers, cheap suicide drones, assault guns, improved missiles, and these are the ones that visible for us.
On the other side the NATO managed to get out 30+ years old stock from the graveyard, and sending it to the front, in small numbers due to the lack of capacity and capability.
I can't imagine how Russia could loose, unless the NATO make same miracle, and increase the indsutrial capacity severalfold.
There is no news about new ,cheap ,mass produced tanks , SAM systems, weapons , EW suites, drones and so on from the NATO side. All that they have is same decades old weapons . I have the same feeling like reading about the state of affairs between Japan and USA during ww2 .
Drones from obtf Kaskad discovered and tracked various Ukrainian vehicles and unleashed Lancets to attack them, including a Ukrainian T-80BV. This volunteer group must have posted the most Lancet attack videos in the Internet.
A Ukrainian T-64BV attacked by a Russian FPV drone. The drone operator deliberately encircled the tank to crash dive into the rear. No EW interference is observed either.
Ukrainian vehicles under artillery attacked and getting popped.
Two tanks attacked by Ka-52.
Ukrainian vehicle convoy ambushed by Russian artillery at Zaporhyzhia.
A Ukrainian T-64BV attacked by a Russian FPV drone. The drone operator deliberately encircled the tank to crash dive into the rear. No EW interference is observed either.
Ukrainian vehicles under artillery attacked and getting popped.
Two tanks attacked by Ka-52.
Ukrainian vehicle convoy ambushed by Russian artillery at Zaporhyzhia.
Don't they have a mishmash of different tanks? Soviet, NATO and now Korean tanks.
I don't envy their logistics team lmao.
Also the only reason I suspect that the Poles chose the K2PL is because SK allowed them to produce 820 of them within Poland and 180 imported from SK for a total of 1000