The War in the Ukraine
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I'm not really sure this is the right approach to take honestly. An increasing amount of videos are now from FPV drones which can pick exactly where they are going to attack. Drone dropped grenades are mostly limited to infantry which pretty much lives or dies at the mercy of local AD detecting and killing those UAVs. while on this specific instance they have been done well to not hinder the crew, more often than not the implementation of anti-drone barriers have been ad-hoc and block crucial escape routes for vehicle crews.
satellite imagery of the patriot AD system in kiev
That would explain the number of South Americans who have died in this conflict, even if politics also plays a role. In that part of the world Russia is still associated with the Soviet Union more than any other part of the world, and in general it is fascinating how many Colombians are involved in the war in Ukraine.
But really, from Africa and the Middle East we have not seen any volunteers/mercenaries, some volunteers of anarchist or leftist ideology in general who fought with the YPG in Syria have appeared but all of them westerners.
I find it interesting that the Ukrainians have been able to operate their Soviet era air defence for an entire year effectively to the point they out of missiles. Yet within a month(?) of having Patriots deployed they are already being lit up.
Does the radar module need to be continuously operating for them to work or something? Or are they too slow to redeploy.
Does the radar module need to be continuously operating for them to work or something? Or are they too slow to redeploy.
They had an incredible number of S-300 batterie, it take time to tame them down. They received some more from other country and reloads.
It's more about having only one Patriot system working without spare versus a multitude of S-300 all over the place with spare parts and maintenance knowhow.
Whatever the USAF spokesperson says to the public means very little without hard evidence here on this forum. They can even claim they shot down alien UFOs all they want. But without hard evidence, their words are anything between partial truth and Colin Powell's vial of laundry powder. This is a serious military forum, don't bring twitter-level hearsays for non-STEM-post-secondary-educated public consumption. You either present a reasonable hard evidence that can withstand basic scrutiny from forum members, or stop expecting forum members to treat your conjecture and claims seriously.
Seriously!
The moment you wave around that so-called "picture of a downed kinzhal warhead", which is a polyhedron shape that is supposed to be payload fairing, but actually with a wall thicker than my wrist; the moment you wave that around in a gleeful triumph; it makes me sick how this forum are hijacked by non-STEM-educated masses.
If you can not critically examine the physical evidences offered by the sources, according to basics things like sizes, shapes, supposed cross-section designs and dimensions. If you just present a 20 to 30 cm diameter polyhedron object, with a wall thickness of at least 3 to 4 cm, and say that it's the tip of Kinzhal (which is 120 cm in diameter guided missile with a seeker on its tip covered by a polyhedron shaped payload fairing), you should NOT expect anyone on this forum to take you seriously. You should re-learn physics, engineering, and technology, related to weapons designs.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Patriots are not even in the same league as Soviet AD units it shoot and scoot capabilities. Once it’s deployed, it’s a static fixed target for all intents and purposes.
That doesn't make any sense. Surely it's harder to target a platform if there is only a single one of them, compared to dozens of thoses?
It seems only Polish S-300 systems made it to the Ukraine. Whereas they should have around 6-12 Patriot launchers by now.
One theory I'm inclined to believe. I doubt the Americans had shoot and scoot in mind when they were developing the Patriot. Once they are spotted by satellite, they are toast.
How much time does it take to pack the system and go?
And to place the battery?