Then, in that case, who is the “blue anal torch” that he mentioned? According to the translations, he was referring to Gazprom’s supposed PMC.
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Cropped or not cropped, that video of Prigozhin cursing the 72nd Brigade for fleeing adds more credence to @MixedReality ‘s post which directly mentioned that event. Nonetheless, just to clarify this more, @MixedReality , can you send a link that has the whole text or video of Prigozhin’s recent tirade? Also in the future can you please add a source for us to access? In the future we would have no choice but to delete your post if you don’t.
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legit or deep fake... In any case he talks way to much and open the door big time to these kind of reports and propaganda. Maybe he like it and have suicidal tendencies.
He is referring to 72 Brigade. He talks about this brigade all the time.
Rosvgardiya's budget was also massively increased and they are supposed to hire more staff. It is not just the military.
Russia definitively has been expecting to have to tighten up security internally inside Russia for sabotage and terror attacks since the conflict started.
Just take the history of friction between Prigozhin and the Russian military leadership.
See the history between this friction:
The numbered main points:
Period: September 2022
Period: September 3rd – October 2nd, 2022
Period: August 3, 2022 - January 16, 2023
Period: March 2023
Period: February 2023
Period: April to May 2023
Period: May 2023
What does all this have in common?
Surovikin.
Viewing the history of friction between Prigozhin and the Russian military leadership, it evidently starts before Surovikin took over SMO as the Russian top commander in Ukraine and criticism returns soon after he was demoted in January 2023. Before Surovikin took over, it was not only Prigozhin ripping up constant criticism against the Russian military leadership, but also Kadyrov, due to the incompetence of Shoigu and Gerasimov in executing the SMO.
Before Surovikin takes over, such facts happen:
The numbered point 1
The numbered point 2
Points 1 and 2 were early September to early October 2022, where Russia was defeated in the counter-offensive in Kharkiv and in Lyman.
Surovikin takes over on October 9, 2022, shortly after the attack on the Crimean bridge, decisively when Russia had already been defeated in Kharkiv and Lyman, moreover, in addition to Prigozhin, Kadyrov consistently called for a change in the execution of the SMO, although it was more timid in his criticism than compared to Prigozhin.
After Surovikin is demoted, such events happen:
The point numbered 3
The point numbered 4
The point numbered 5
The point numbered 6
The point numbered 7
Point numbered 3 happens just when Surovikin had already been relegated on January 11, 2023, Soledar fell and the Russian MoD declared victory glory to the Russian regular army, not to PMC Wagner.
Here the friction starts to get more serious between Prigozhin and the Russian military leadership.
Then came points 4, 5, 6 and 7, culminating in this recent news that Wagner would receive the ammunition and Surovikin would be the link between PMC Wagner and the Russian MoD.
In other words, we have two military groups here that want to conduct SMO in a different way. The first group is led by Shoigu and Gerasimov as main commanders, in addition to other minor generals, such as Aleksandr Lapin himself who was defeated at Izyum, commander Rustam Muradov who had serious defeats at Vuhledar, among others.
On the other side there is the group commanded by Surovikin as the main general in the execution of the SMO with Prigozhin and Kadyrov being his subordinates just as it was when Gen. Armageddon took over until he was demoted in Jan 2023, clearly Surovikin had the support of other minor generals, we publicly know that one of them is Mikhail Mizintsev himself, after he was dismissed on April 30, 2023, he joined PMC Wagner, clearly he falls into this second group, it was after his resignation at the end of April 2023 that Prigozhin started talking about Bakhmut's departure.
You see there is internal friction in the way SMO is run, with one side being Shoigu and Gerasimov and the other being Prigozhin, Kadyrov and Surovikin. After this recent news that Surovikin will end up being the link between the PMC and the Russian MoD, there is no doubt about this internal friction. As Shoigu and Gerasimov clearly have more access to Putin and more power than Surovikin even because he is a silovik, he had to give in and demote Surovikin by placing him below Gerasimov in the execution of the SMO.
Putin had to end up rewarding the incompetent and demoting the competent. Just look at the mess SMO was in from February to October 2022, culminating in the final act, the Crimean Bridge attack, things only started to get less worse when Surovikin took over, stabilizing the entire frontline, starting to creating the set of fortifications and attacking facilities and infrastructure in Ukraine, something that until then was not accomplished by the previous incompetent leadership (except at the beginning of the war), this with the military in an ongoing war of attrition, which only leaves even more Clearly these guys had no idea what they were doing.
It is worth remembering, when the Russians had to retreat from the right bank of the Dnieper in Kherson, Prigozhin and Kadyrov did not criticize as they used to do with Shoigu and Gerasimov, they understood Surovikin's decision that even assuming he had to retreat from the bank right of the Dnieper river in Kherson, obligatorily due to the incompetence of the previous leaderships, shortly before starting to effectively carry out this, he was giving the opinion that he would have to make difficult decisions, which he clearly ended up doing, retreating all Russian units from the right bank of the river Dnieper river in Kherson.
The relationship between Surovikin and PMC Wagner became so helpful that Prigozhin was starting to receive modern tanks, the T-90M.
I copied a Pepe Escobar post on Telegram. Pepe himself cut and pasted what the link below posted.
solarz
Brigadier
Very informative.
My takeaway from the above is that Russia has been infiltrated by the West at the highest echelons of its military and most likely civilian command. Putin has less control over the MOD than is widely believed. We should not forget that before the Ukraine War, most Russians were still looking to Europe as their main partner. Putin may have forced some events with the SMO, but there are surely still a lot of people in power with the old mindset.
That is not the only tank took part in the victory parade,and is also why Oryx is not a credible source.
