The War in the Ukraine

supersnoop

Major
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I don't think thats really is an option. There was a video floating on twitter showing how the rounds are delivered and the charge was just 1 solid bag rather than several smaller charges.
I would be interested to see that.
If you can't adjust the charges, then how can you fire at lower ranges?
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Need to be far of infantry... the tendency of riding infantry on tanks or putting cargo on is certainly not advised with ARENA equipped rig.

Would have been highly needed when they where distributing ATGM like candies... right now, mines could be a bigger problem. More antimining rig in front of tank needed big time.

Actually, reconfiguring Arena to focus on countering top attack could solve the issue of APS posing a significant threat to friendly infantry if the APS rounds are launched upwards with shaped charges also directing shrapnel skywards.

It’s by no means going to be fun for friendly infantry nearby with those APS going off, but it shouldn’t be lethally dangerous as conventional APS.

Indeed, the danger to friendly infantry might be as big, if not a bigger factor as to why the Russians have been so slow to field them as production capacity limitations given how armour is primarily used in this way so far - as line breaker infantry support units rather than for rapid manoeuvring armoured Calvary charges against enemy armour in open field combat.
 

Gloire_bb

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Indeed, the danger to friendly infantry might be as big, if not a bigger factor as to why the Russians have been so slow to field them as production capacity limitations given how armour is primarily used in this way so far - as line breaker infantry support units rather than for rapid manoeuvring armoured Calvary charges against enemy armour in open field combat.
erm, the reason why Russia everyone is so slow is much, much simpler. It's expensive, until you're actually at war.
Furthermore, Arena-M (developed specifically to be retrofittable to t-series) juuust finished state trials.

Need to be far of infantry... the tendency of riding infantry on tanks or putting cargo on is certainly not advised with ARENA equipped rig.
No one sane will switch on APS when there are people riding it.
APS isn't meant to be switched on all the time in the first place.
 
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Tam

Brigadier
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UR-77 Meteorite on a spectacular mine clearing operation. This could be on Kremenneya.


M777 howitzer burns after being struck by a Lancet. Also in the Kremenneya front.


"Sunshine" TOS-1A thermobaric is used on a large garage or parking section in Ugledar. There might be all sorts of vehicles underneath.


Ukraine doing probing attacks along the front. Russia using 20 FABs a day along the front. Central District of Bakhmut in a stage of collapse and VDV moved it's newly acquired TOS Sunshine thermobaric weapons into Bakhmut with Western District as the target.

 

gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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Journalists being retarded as usual. It has nothing to do with being a political risk or not. There is no point in mobilizing troops you cannot equip and train properly. Maybe after the current ones are assimilated we will see further waves of mobilization. But for that we need to move past the phase of positional warfare in the Donbass.

A lot of people in Russia expected full mobilization to happen once the conflict started. So it is doubtful it will have a major impact if it does happen eventually.

The article also continues blatant lies like Russia having 100k dead. Even the Mediazona propaganda numbers count more like 20k. It is not like you can hide fatalities easily in the age of social media.
 
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Atomicfrog

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Journalists being retarded as usual. It has nothing to do with being a political risk or not. There is no point in mobilizing troops you cannot equip and train properly. Maybe after the current ones are assimilated we will see further waves of mobilization. But for that we need to move past the phase of positional warfare in the Donbass.

A lot of people in Russia expected full mobilization to happen once the conflict started. So it is doubtful it will have a major impact if it does happen eventually.
Anyway they got their round of yearly conscription starting lately... it's not a good time to double the number and having some logistic problems like last year. I could see another round of mobilization this summer if they need too, after the basic training of the conscripts.

Don't know how many of 2022 conscripts will retain their position for more time in the army ? If last year conscripts prolong their contracts they can be send to the front like normal troops. New conscripts need to be kept in Russia, ample job there anyway with logistic lines and defences of the border.
 

Tam

Brigadier
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Anyway they got their round of yearly conscription starting lately... it's not a good time to double the number and having some logistic problems like last year. I could see another round of mobilization this summer if they need too, after the basic training of the conscripts.

Don't know how many of 2022 conscripts will retain their position for more time in the army ? If last year conscripts prolong their contracts they can be send to the front like normal troops. New conscripts need to be kept in Russia, ample job there anyway with logistic lines and defences of the border.

It seems that a lot of conscripts, on the end of their contract, join Wagner. Better pay, better glory, a better meritocracy. There's a question of what happens when soon to be ex-Wagnerians finish their contracts too.
 

Tam

Brigadier
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Back to civilian life or stick with Wagner and goes to Africa. There are some hotspots there like Libya.

They can end up as instructors either within Wagner or the Russian armed forces. Certainly the rest of the Russian forces wants to learn Wagner's special sauce.

Additional unrelated stuff.

Ukrainian soldiers lost their vehicles but not their lives, walking back to their base.


Ukrainian FPV drone managed to take down a Murom M surveillance station.


More incendiary ammunition, this one being used on Zaporozhye, likely against clusters of enemy troops and vehicles. I believe these were launched from Grad MLRS.


TOS-1A video confirmed in action now being used in Bakhmut against Ukrainian held buildings.

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