The War in the Ukraine

Janiz said:

What was on this piece of briefing paper and what was posted here yesterday (it turns out the numbers from Oryx are pretty accurate and we know nothing about the methodology of those counts even if it's real stuff):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644226867623280641

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Lmao now we know the slides were real because bozo US bots are already psyopsing over it.

Ukrainian losses of 17.5k = moderate losses despite a claimed 1 million man army?

71.5k losses on the much smaller Russian army = also moderate?

Make the Photoshop more obvious, glowie.

Also can we auto remove posts referring to Oryx as source, given that it is the same as US state dept except Oryx's explicit function is to mislead and misinform? (such as claiming missiles hit the Kerch bridge as well as the underwater drone hoax meant to distract from suicide bombing, proven counts of 1 disabled vehicle as multiple, counts of siberian vehicle depots as destroyed Russian ones etc.)

There is nothing wrong about getting the Washington perspective, but links from the US state position should be posted from first hand sources rather than Oryx.

Janiz said:

What was on this piece of briefing paper and what was posted here yesterday (it turns out the numbers from Oryx are pretty accurate and we know nothing about the methodology of those counts even if it's real stuff):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644226867623280641

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But is there that alternate higher resolution version of images of all 5 leaked slides? This shows just one part of just one slide.

Michaelsinodef said:

I call it bullshit and it being a PSYOPS, no way that Ukraine only has 17.5k KIA lol.

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Numbers have been changed from the first version posted that is being actively deleted ... would have been better to label it fake and let it there than the US pushing modified one while deleting original version. Right now it's most probably a mixed pot of falsified informations...

Biscuits said:

Lmao now we know the slides were real because bozo US bots are already psyopsing over it.

Ukrainian losses of 17.5k = moderate losses despite a claimed 1 million man army?

71.5k losses on the much smaller Russian army = also moderate?

Make the Photoshop more obvious, glowie.

Also can we auto remove posts referring to Oryx as source, given that it is the same as US state dept except Oryx's explicit function is to mislead and misinform? (such as claiming missiles hit the Kerch bridge as well as the underwater drone hoax meant to distract from suicide bombing, proven counts of 1 disabled vehicle as multiple, counts of siberian vehicle depots as destroyed Russian ones etc.)

There is nothing wrong about getting the Washington perspective, but links from the US state position should be posted from first hand sources rather than Oryx.

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I won’t comment on whether the images are a deliberate leak or legit. It could be either to be honest since the Ukrainians are spreading a lot of misinformation and conflicting information as a smokescreen for what they have planned. But if the US actually says that Ukrainians only have 17.5k deaths, they are just believing the the Ukrainians’ numbers with no additional verification. Is the Pentagon really that detached from what’s happening on the ground?

Aegis21 said:

I won’t comment on whether the images are a deliberate leak or legit. It could be either to be honest since the Ukrainians are spreading a lot of misinformation and conflicting information as a smokescreen for what they have planned. But if the US actually says that Ukrainians only have 17.5k deaths, they are just believing the the Ukrainians’ numbers with no additional verification. Is the Pentagon really that detached from what’s happening on the ground?

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The leak change with time... it's just fake and modified fake...

For the time being
Lets take this supposed "document" leak with a grain of salt, this could be potentially a psyop done by both sides

The US joint chiefs claimed that Ukrainian casualties were 120,000 a while ago, why would they have 17.5 K deaths in an internal memo?

Cult Icon said:

why would they have 17.5 K deaths in an internal memo?

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To make us talk about it instead of focusing on what's happening...

Presently NATO informations warfare try to calm all the Bakhmut/Avdiivka falling talks and push a lot of news about the awesome future counter offensives/NATO expanding, Ukraine winning. A leaked plan push the narrative that the offensive will happen soon. We talk about that a lot and stop talking about Bakhmut. In two weeks most of west population will forget about it if they spray enough news to burry it.

Clearly they are putting all the eggs on that counter offensive, it will define the rest of the war.

RottenPanzer said:

For the time being
Lets take this supposed "document" leak with a grain of salt, this could be potentially a psyop done by both sides

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On second thought, it probably is a Ukrainian PSYOP to make the Russians feel too confident. The force dispersions don’t add up.

Aegis21 said:

On second thought, it probably is a Ukrainian PSYOP to make the Russians feel too confident. The force dispersions don’t add up.

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Only for the average civilians. The Russians would have their own intelligences sources and gathering capabilities which they can use to verify the information from this leak. If it is a PSYOP then it could possibly be more of a PR type of move.