The War in the Ukraine

generalmeng

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Looks like Russian officials are telling us the war aint going so well for them and the new weapons Ukraine will use this spring might spell defeat for them.

Why would you say such a threat if your conventional forces were doing well?
I thought about the possible use of nuclear weapons a lot.

Logically, it makes sense to just nuke Ukraine and end the war. I think the reason why Russia won't nuke Ukraine, is simply because Ukraine is Russia. Makes no sense to nuke your own land.

how ever, Russia can nuke Poland, like warsaw. If Russia does that, NATO ends, and it is over for NATO. Because the USA is not going to be completely destroyed for Poland. Neither will France and UK. This nuclear attack will break NATO.

The end result isn't pretty. now, everyone will want a nuke. because it is clear in the new world order, nuke means security guarantee. No alliance will ever offer anyone the protection they need.

The west already sanction Russia to the point Russia has nothing left to lose. India and China aren't going to stop buying from Russia because of a nuclear attack. Both India and China are nuclear states, they don't care. The whole world will be shaken up.
 

cn_habs

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I thought about the possible use of nuclear weapons a lot.

Logically, it makes sense to just nuke Ukraine and end the war. I think the reason why Russia won't nuke Ukraine, is simply because Ukraine is Russia. Makes no sense to nuke your own land.

how ever, Russia can nuke Poland, like warsaw. If Russia does that, NATO ends, and it is over for NATO. Because the USA is not going to be completely destroyed for Poland. Neither will France and UK. This nuclear attack will break NATO.

The end result isn't pretty. now, everyone will want a nuke. because it is clear in the new world order, nuke means security guarantee. No alliance will ever offer anyone the protection they need.

The west already sanction Russia to the point Russia has nothing left to lose. India and China aren't going to stop buying from Russia because of a nuclear attack. Both India and China are nuclear states, they don't care. The whole world will be shaken up.

Poland hasn't directly that much bad deed to Russia to get nuked. I would stop fantasizing such scenarios.
 

Atomicfrog

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Poland hasn't directly that much bad deed to Russia to get nuked. I would stop fantasizing such scenarios.
I would see Hungary and Poland to take some Oblast to bring Nato a little bit more to the east than Russia nuking Poland. It would be a kick in the gut for Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine is already the punching ball... why not going for a second run ? Russia could not just say no for self determination of a couple of oblast ?
 
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generalmeng

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Poland hasn't directly that much bad deed to Russia to get nuked. I would stop fantasizing such scenarios.
Russia military will lose popular support if they use nukes in Ukraine. Russians people will see it as self nuking.

Russian and Poland had historical rivalry. If Russia want to make a point and break apart nato, Poland is the easy escape goat.

The purpose of nuking Poland is to simply demonstrate to the world, NATO is really using eastern Europe as meat shield, the 3 great powers don't really want to risk their own life, and defend against a Russia nuclear attack.

I don't see Russia using nukes. But if they are to use nukes, the most likely target is Poland.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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Canadas mech brigades are quite well equipped
How? Canadian mech infantry regiments are equipped with LAVs + Leopard 2s in the best case scenario, and that's not even spread evenly across the 3 regular force regiments. For example only 2 battalions of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry are mechanized, with 3PPCLI only having trucks for mobility with no armor support. On top of that the 25mm autocannon on the LAVs that exist are completely overmatched when it comes to fire power. That's not the mention to complete lack of air defence, and I mean none. In an all out war Canadian Army at best could only serve as auxiliary formation of a larger army group, because it would be completely obliterated by enemy air power as soon as it set foot on the battlefield without support.

Infantry equipment is completely outdated as well. Can you imagine that Canada doesn't even operate infantry portable ATGMs? I remember my coworker was telling me how jealous he was of British army infantry kit, and that's really saying something.
 
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tankphobia

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I quote this comment for the day this war ends (maybe) and we get to find out how many actually died on each side and where the heaviest losses occurred. I'd love to discuss at that time the strategies of each side and which one more effectively applied attrition damage to the other side, for each stage of this war, cumulating into whatever the end result may be. Something like a cost benefit analysis. Do you think you'll still be actively posting here then, because I will be. That's because pysops doesn't necessitate my being here, instead im here to read info that others spent the time to filter out as much garbage as possible and then throw in my half cent.
Why do you think accurate figures will ever be released for this war? It benefits nobody other than internet warriors trying to settle pointless arguments. The only way we'll get internal figures is if it gets leaked and nobody will trust it anyways.
 
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