The War in the Ukraine
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You left out the areas they have lost. Ukraine has taken back around 50% of what Russia took in the invasion. Russia has lost Kyiv and Kharkiv, basically the whole north east of Ukraine. Then they lost Izium, Lyman and the big one... Kherson. When Ukraine takes back its territory it takes it in huge chunks. Ever since Russia gave up the whole north east their gains have been a village here a village there.
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PE is both more capable and lighter than Kevlar for personal armour, especially for helmets.
Just because they sell Kevlar helmets at higher cost doesn’t automatically make Kevlar better. Often Kevlar needs to be reinforced with other materials like PE to fully meet requirements, and Kevlar is also a registered trademark of DuPont, so if they want to use real Kevlar, there may be licensing/import costs that push up prices.
PE is both more capable and lighter than Kevlar for personal armour, especially for helmets.
Just because they sell Kevlar helmets at higher cost doesn’t automatically make Kevlar better. Often Kevlar needs to be reinforced with other materials like PE to fully meet requirements, and Kevlar is also a registered trademark of DuPont, so if they want to use real Kevlar, there may be licensing/import costs that push up prices.
Since when did Russia ever had a military occupation of Kiev nor Kharkiv... In hindsight, they just pulled that stunt because with 200k men they would never be able to take the land bridge and Mariupol if all of Ukraine army was grinding them down in the south.
Izyum is a town on similar size as Soledar.
More importantly, in any of these "victories" where Ukraine pulled into areas with minimal Russian presence, how many casualties were inflicted on the Russians? How many brigades were encircled and wiped out? Were there fighting in Izyum that was on the level as it is in Bakhmut?
Wars are decided by maneuvers that destroy large amounts of enemy army, not empty ruined settlements switching hands. Unless those areas are used as a springboard to create a maneuver, they're effectively useless.
The fact he name dropped Leopard 1 in that statement... Ouch. The tankers of Ukraine may soon have something "new" to drive... A contemporary of Type 59.
I mean, that sounds ridiculous. Because they didn't inflict many casualties doesn't mean that these weren't valid victories. Who said that only by inflicting more casualties it means you are victorious?
Plenty of battles and wars in history where the final victor had actually suffered more casualties than the opponent
This thread is still going strong I see with the copium notion of "inflict more casualties = victory"
You say what you want. I will tell you that come the negotiating phase, Ukrainians will thank their lucky stars that they managed to get all those territories freed from Russia. Meanwhile Putin will be banging his head on the wall for allowing Ukraine to get those back
"They are effectively useless" lol. Lets see what you will say when they start negotiating...
I can see in comments under those videos some of the sells take both rubles and hryvnia. I like this comment:
"If Russians are buying knockoff Russian army plate carrier, does that mean it's no longer a knock off and is now genuine?"
Some of those sellers that take orders from both side are saying Ukrainians are paying less, so they end up with lower quality stuff.
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Oleksiy Danilov, the secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council:
Danilov says Ukraine being offered 'Korean scenario' for truce. "We are currently being offered the Korean scenario, which would mean the division of the country.. The so-called conditional '38th parallel.' Here are Ukrainians, but there Ukrainians are not like that. The Russians will now invent anything. I know for sure that one of the options they can offer us is the '38th parallel'," Danilov said.
One of Russia's main targets is Novorossiya, map below:
It's not about absolute losses in numbers but about destroying military formations.
The reason you take ground is so that the enemy armies can be destroyed.
What makes you think there will be a negotiation phase anytime soon? Both Ukraine and Russia would disagree with you on that.
Keep men, lose land; land can be taken again. Keep land, lose men; land and men both lost.