The War in the Ukraine

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Tam

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Temstar said:
Other than being sort of on the flank for Bakhmut, what's so important about Soledar that it's causing all that doomposting for Ukrainian supporters? If Soledar falls to the Russians are we looking at a "Flower of Popasna" type situation?
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Soledar actually more important than Bakmut as it opens a Flower towards the north towards Liman and the south. Part of the importance of Bakhmut was that its capture would lead to a Flower towards Soledar and Avdivkaa but capturing Soledar first partly beats that purpose.

To all the 'credit' or notoriety given to Wagner here, the 6th Cossacks Regiment and the Chechens are also operating in this area.
 
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redion said:
And from the series "Back from the memory lanes" the recent news that the U.S will send in Ukraine the Sea Sparrow missile systems will make reality some vehicle configuration that were trialled before example bellow
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1611274150617796609
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Sea Sparrow range is less than Buk. Probably at least 20 to 25km. That's like something the Chinese use for the Jianghu frigates. Compare to 40km for Buk M1 and up to 50 to 70km for Buk M2 or M3. Still it would serve as a stop gap and better than nothing.

Just inserting this so I don't need to make an extra post.


Captured or surrendered Ukrainians. The spokesman among them reading from the paper claims they were abandoned by their commander and left them on their own. Although I think it's possible they are commander less because their commander has been killed.
 
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Tam said:
Situation in Soledar not looking good for Ukraine. Russians are now attacking all along its northern front and into the rear, while attacking from the side and creeping into the center.

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Don't look to they take time to retreat on the news but maybe the gain of ground have been helped by it. No news of Ukraine pulling troops from there ? If not it will be major city fighting. If they start to bomb concentration with Odab 500, it would level quite a lot of buildings.
 
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Tam

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Atomicfrog said:
Don't look to they take time to retreat on the news but maybe the gain of ground have been helped by it. No news of Ukraine pulling troops from there ? If not it will be major city fighting. If they start to bomb concentration with Odab 500, it would level quite a lot of buildings.
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Ukrainians seem to be doubling down on it which IMO is the worst thing to do. They might even be pulling from Bakhmut into Soledar.

There are all sorts of buildings and hi rise in the upper part of Soledar that might be potentially be used for defensive positions but those things have never stopped the Russians before as we have seen them blowing things like that in videos.
 
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Tam said:
Ukrainians seem to be doubling down on it which IMO is the worst thing to do. They might even be pulling from Bakhmut into Soledar.

There are all sorts of buildings and hi rise in the upper part of Soledar that might be potentially be used for defensive positions but those things have never stopped the Russians before as we have seen them blowing things like that in videos.
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Damn, it's all or nothing in Soledar, if they remove troops from Bakhmut into Soledar, are they reinforcing Bakhmut? If Soledar fall it will be quite hard to reinforce Bakhmut and even get the hell out of there. They are not in Kherson, bombers can launch their payloads over countrolled terrain without passing over Ukrainian forces at all and levelling positions in Soledar.
 
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The commander of a tank platoon of Russian T-80 tanks spoke about combat work in Ukraine with mobilized servicemen.


Ukrainian servicemen published a video of an attempt to leave the caponier of an armored personnel carrier M113. The video shows an American M113A1 armored personnel carrier of the Ukrainian army. This modification of the armored vehicle has been produced since 1964 and is equipped with a 6V-53 Detroit Diesel diesel engine with an HP 215 power.

 
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Mirek

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I have a feeling this time next week folks are still going to be talking about Soledar imminent capture by Russian forces. Could be wrong but I don't think it's going to happen.

Y'all can laugh away now but I think we'll see next week nothing has changed.
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Russian forces seized Mariupol, Severodonetsk, and Lysychansk and this was prior to the partial mobilization order. Soledar is child’s play compared to these urban conglomerates. Once taken, it not only undermines Bakhmut but also the entire northern sector which was previously vacated.

The south is Ukraine’s soft underbelly, I would not be surprised if Russia pushes up the Dnieper river along the eastern bank in the future, seizing
Zaporozhia and eventually Dnipro. If these cities are secured, Kharkov becomes untenable and it’s no exaggeration to say the war is basically over.
 
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