The War in the Ukraine
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Why? What is slowing them down?
The Germans do not fund the program properly as usual. And the idea you can just kick a sclerotic MIC into high gear in a couple of months is pure fantasy. Look, I have known people in Germany involved in their MIC. If you work for the German MIC R&D, you basically taint your possibilities in civilian R&D, you are basically considered a pariah. Germans have an instinctual repulsion to investing in the military.
Several famous Ukrainians from the circle of friends of Zelenskyi and Arestovych died in the Bakhmut Meat Grinder.
Quick calcualtion, the full operation/maintanance cost of a M60A3 tank ,with ammunition and 1200 miles driving range, in a 2000 tank fleet cost 800 000 USD in 2022 dollars.
It expecting a ready to go manufacturing base.
Means sending example 500 M60A3 would cost in the range of 0.5-2 billion USD+ the establishment of required maintanace insfrstructure/industrial base.
And due to the above numbers the users has teh tendency of using up the best tanks until last moment, mothballing the worst ones and using them as spare part depository.
And means when they mothball the whole fleet they already run out of spares, and only a handfull tank is in operational condition.
Now, if the USA wants to make opearational say the 500 tanks mentioned above then most likelly they have to stop all maintanance related activity on the Abrams tanks ,and stop use them for a half year. After receiveing the spares.
Would be easier to send to Ukraine 500-1000 Abrams, with spares and so on, but that most likelly would use up all USA Army spare parts in short period of time, making the remaining tanks in the USA fleet unoperational for 1-2 years.
Once more attack of the AliExpress drones. The Mugin 5 Pro rears its head again. They have been responsible for a number of long range attacks lately.
6 months ago there was an attack on a Russian oil refinery by a Mugin 5.
Also responsible for the attack on Sevastopol 4 months ago.
Promo video of Mugin drone. The Mugin 5 resembles this. Mugin officially condemns the use of their products for military purposes.
It's expensive to use an S-300 missile to take down a $10k usd Chinese commercial drone but the potential damage can well worth much more than the missile.
This from @rybar.
On the night of December 23-24, the Ukrainian command resumed strike Russian targets on the territory of the Crimean peninsula after a short pause due to .
Chronology of events:
Seven Chinese commercial drones Mugin-5 in the region of 19.30 - 20.00 took off from the international airport in Odessa and headed for the Crimea at predetermined coordinates.
After a couple of hours, they approached the peninsula from the side of the Bakalskaya Spit in the Razdolnensky district. Five of them were shot down by the crews of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system and the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system over the waters of the Karkinitsky Gulf .
The other two went along the previously established route, which made it possible to some extent avoid the impact of electronic warfare: one flew towards Dzhankoy , the other towards Simferopol .
As a result, both were shot down by Russian military personnel around 01.00 - 02.00 on December 24. One - when trying to hit the oil depot near Nizhnegorsky , and the second intended to hit the Tavricheskaya TPP near the administrative center of the republic.
What is the result?
The air defense units in Crimea took into account the previous experience of UAF strikes in order to prepare for the next ones: none of the drones reached their target .
Despite the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out an attack without a sign characteristic of all previous attempts - there were no planes and UAVs of NATO reconnaissance aircraft in the air. Probably, the Armed Forces of Ukraine understood that the presence of the conditional "Global Hawk" or RC-135 was too remarkable and tried to use the effect of surprise.
At the same time, it is quite possible to use Bayraktar from Odessa to track the actions of Russian air defense. Moreover, the cameras installed on it make it possible to conduct reconnaissance at a great distance, as was the case in the summer on Zmein .
The increased role of unmanned aircraft expanded significantly with the beginning of the NWO. Now, in addition to military developments, commercial UAVs are actively used, "handicraft" equipping them with the necessary weapons.
Such a reconnaissance-strike tool has great potential to be used due to its extremely low price, ease of maintenance and high-quality camera. The Armed Forces of Ukraine use dozens of them almost every day, not really worrying about losses.
The cost of one UAV Mugin-5, which is freely available, does not exceed ten thousand dollars , which is much less than the cost of producing anti-aircraft missiles for modern air defense systems.
Therefore, the Ukrainian command will continue to attempt strikes in the Crimea using these simple but dangerous systems. At the same time, there will be changes in the tactics, quantity, and nature of the use of drones. And you have to be fully prepared for this .
6 months ago there was an attack on a Russian oil refinery by a Mugin 5.
Also responsible for the attack on Sevastopol 4 months ago.
Promo video of Mugin drone. The Mugin 5 resembles this. Mugin officially condemns the use of their products for military purposes.
It's expensive to use an S-300 missile to take down a $10k usd Chinese commercial drone but the potential damage can well worth much more than the missile.
This from @rybar.
On the night of December 23-24, the Ukrainian command resumed strike Russian targets on the territory of the Crimean peninsula after a short pause due to .
Chronology of events:
Seven Chinese commercial drones Mugin-5 in the region of 19.30 - 20.00 took off from the international airport in Odessa and headed for the Crimea at predetermined coordinates.After a couple of hours, they approached the peninsula from the side of the Bakalskaya Spit in the Razdolnensky district. Five of them were shot down by the crews of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system and the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system over the waters of the Karkinitsky Gulf .The other two went along the previously established route, which made it possible to some extent avoid the impact of electronic warfare: one flew towards Dzhankoy , the other towards Simferopol .As a result, both were shot down by Russian military personnel around 01.00 - 02.00 on December 24. One - when trying to hit the oil depot near Nizhnegorsky , and the second intended to hit the Tavricheskaya TPP near the administrative center of the republic.What is the result?
The air defense units in Crimea took into account the previous experience of UAF strikes in order to prepare for the next ones: none of the drones reached their target .
Despite the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out an attack without a sign characteristic of all previous attempts - there were no planes and UAVs of NATO reconnaissance aircraft in the air. Probably, the Armed Forces of Ukraine understood that the presence of the conditional "Global Hawk" or RC-135 was too remarkable and tried to use the effect of surprise.
At the same time, it is quite possible to use Bayraktar from Odessa to track the actions of Russian air defense. Moreover, the cameras installed on it make it possible to conduct reconnaissance at a great distance, as was the case in the summer on Zmein .
The increased role of unmanned aircraft expanded significantly with the beginning of the NWO. Now, in addition to military developments, commercial UAVs are actively used, "handicraft" equipping them with the necessary weapons.
Such a reconnaissance-strike tool has great potential to be used due to its extremely low price, ease of maintenance and high-quality camera. The Armed Forces of Ukraine use dozens of them almost every day, not really worrying about losses.
The cost of one UAV Mugin-5, which is freely available, does not exceed ten thousand dollars , which is much less than the cost of producing anti-aircraft missiles for modern air defense systems.
Therefore, the Ukrainian command will continue to attempt strikes in the Crimea using these simple but dangerous systems. At the same time, there will be changes in the tactics, quantity, and nature of the use of drones. And you have to be fully prepared for this .
Ukraine still holding Bakhmut... I don't think Russian forces is ever going to take it.
All of a sudden there's been a lot of Forpost footage released by Russians. 6 videos released in the last week alone.
Earlier in the war Ukrainian TB-2s and Russian Orions didn't last long in the air, and there haven't been any released videos for months.
I wonder why they're suddenly effective. Has Ukraine's air defences been suppressed enough for them to operate? Or maybe they are small enough they can't be engaged effectively?
Earlier in the war Ukrainian TB-2s and Russian Orions didn't last long in the air, and there haven't been any released videos for months.
I wonder why they're suddenly effective. Has Ukraine's air defences been suppressed enough for them to operate? Or maybe they are small enough they can't be engaged effectively?
Soviet equipment was designed to be put back in service with minimal resources though by people with minimal training. Western equipment not so much.
Which is why I'm wondering, given how many Krabs we have seen taken out already, if the lack of destroyed PzH has more to do with them spending more time out of service due to maintenance issues rather than a Russian inability to find them per se
That must be why there is a sudden slurry of articles about how Bakhmut "ackshually" isn't important and losing it would be just a pyrhic victory by Russia, right?.
Anyway, alleged images of a deployed T-14