Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread

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laurenjia said:
Thanks for the pic. Newbie here but had been lurking around. Curiousity got the better of me to ask a stupid question.

I have been meaning to ask, if not already noticed.....I don't seem to see a flight pitot tube for SAC's plane that is characteristic of most if not all prototype / first / early flight planes....which leads me to think:
- The video of SAC plane is fake? (doubtful though possible)
- SAC has so well developed protocols and new ways of testing that new protoypes doesn't need pitot tube anymore (doubtful). Or the pitot tube is somewhere else that wasn't visible to us...which would be even more interesting. Or it has some uber stealthy pitot tube?
- Or that is so well advanced in flight testing already that it doesn't need one (eg J-35A now vs J-35 naval). If so, this means two or three things: (1) SAC's plane had already flown / tested many times before; (2) this recent exposure isn't its maiden flight per se; and (3) it is well advanced and ahead in terms or testing vs CAC
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Hello, welcome to the forum.

While I am not qualified to comment on the pitot tube (perhaps a more experienced SDF member can pitch in), I don't believe that it is in any way a deal breaker of sorts. None of these are 'maiden flights' per say, but I like to think of them as first public flights of finalized, end stage prototypes flown with the acceptance that they will be photographed. An unofficial backdoor reveal so to say. Unless any major shakeups happen, accept the core designs to be largely finalized and in the end product with further, smaller refinements.

Current consensus is that SAC indeed flew a prototype, but the one shown is unmanned with a second manned prototype yet to be flown. As you can see, opsec seems to be tighter around SAC compared to CAC's dorito, and the many photographs aren't really consistent either.

Best to wait for more credible information.
 
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bsdnf said:
Honestly, I don't know, maybe they are all fake. Because Shengad doesn't have as many videos as Chenggad to rule out the possibility of fakery.
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Perhaps i missed it but i dont think any of the credible sources that told us about J-36 are denying Shengad news.

I feel the question is whether its a UCAV or a manned aircraft and further questions if its part of the family or not. These are the tangents towards which the community is trying to form some kind of consensus as solid as J-36.
 
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bsdnf said:
Honestly, I don't know, maybe they are all fake. Because Shengad doesn't have as many videos as Chenggad to rule out the possibility of fakery.
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I think second one is real，there are two videos about it released on 26th
But the first picture is either fake or something different. Maybe this design with folded vertical tails.
 

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I wonder if the vertically launched hard-kill self-defense system will be realized.

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I am more interested in SAC. Maybe because of it's more shrouded in mystery
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Presentation by a Chinese official posted on the J-36 thread. I've had my doubts that the prototype flown by Shenyang is a UCAV, and the following image just increases my doubts (circled in red):
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Yep me too. This image implies that SHAD is manned aircraft with GJ11 as its teacups. Unless it can also function as unmanned drones teapot as well
 
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