Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread

[ougoah]

Graphic above shared on this forum back in 2022.

Top aircraft that is triangular aligns well with these graphics.





Could the triangular craft be the "teapot"? Wind tunnel model certainly has a bulge large enough to be a cockpit. Then again, both do and UAVs often house communication equipment in that space.

 

[ougoah]

Sad that the Dark Sword looks like it's not being inducted? That thing looked a lot cooler but probably didn't possess the same shapeshifting technology adopted in these 6th gens ie advanced skin materials/ hingeless.
















This thing definitely existed as a program. Whether it just never got approved, lost out to competing design/doctrine or simply is on track to being inducted/has been inducted we won't know for now.

It's still possible that Dark Sword is the heavy unmanned "loyal wingman" pairing for J-20 and J-35 while what we're hearing about in the form of "teacups" from SAC now/soon is the "loyal wingman" for the 6th gen.

 

[latenlazy]

Sad that the Dark Sword looks like it's not being inducted? That thing looked a lot cooler but probably didn't possess the same shapeshifting technology adopted in these 6th gens ie advanced skin materials/ hingeless.



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This thing definitely existed as a program. Whether it just never got approved, lost out to competing design/doctrine or simply is on track to being inducted/has been inducted we won't know for now.

It's still possible that Dark Sword is the heavy unmanned "loyal wingman" pairing for J-20 and J-35 while what we're hearing about in the form of "teacups" from SAC now/soon is the "loyal wingman" for the 6th gen.

You never know it might get reincarnated as something else one day.

 

[another505]

People were already asking warthunder when?

5 years lol? They only recently released J-10A level. I hope to play it in Ace Combat despite its not my cup of tea anymore, I feel nostalgia for it

 

[enroger]

Sad that the Dark Sword looks like it's not being inducted? That thing looked a lot cooler but probably didn't possess the same shapeshifting technology adopted in these 6th gens ie advanced skin materials/ hingeless.



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This thing definitely existed as a program. Whether it just never got approved, lost out to competing design/doctrine or simply is on track to being inducted/has been inducted we won't know for now.

It's still possible that Dark Sword is the heavy unmanned "loyal wingman" pairing for J-20 and J-35 while what we're hearing about in the form of "teacups" from SAC now/soon is the "loyal wingman" for the 6th gen.

Don't be sad, I believe all these years of research working on the darksword is finally culminating into the SAC 6th gen CCA we're seeing now (or about to see)

 

[bsdnf]

When CN CCA comes out, ppl on x & YouTube will definitely associate it with the Dark Sword and claim that it is "actually not 6gen", cannot be compared with the US CCA etc, just like the J-36 and JH-XX.

 

[Tiberium]

Actually Yankee states clearly in the podcast that there will be a CCA type drone specified for A2A/dogfight in China's 6gen system. So after the CAC/SAC 6gen program revealed I'm thinking, what would a dogfighting drone be? Imagine it can do stable turn in 20G. It actually required very high lift-drag ratio, which means it would be a very efficient lifting body design. Lifting body, canard, LERX, double delta, everything. Then we come back and look at Dark Sword, it might not be a very good 6gen, but it actually would be a very good high maneuverability design. In sub/tran-sonic dogfighting, it will eat F-16s like a cake.

 

[dingyibvs]

Oh no！I just fed it to a translator，it’s confusing how such error could happen.

Weird how it would translate something so simple wrong. Besides, I did offer my interpretation of his previous post some pages back, and I don't think he ever meant to say that the SAC fighter is an UAV, so naturally he can't "double down" on it.

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Graphic above shared on this forum back in 2022.

Top aircraft that is triangular aligns well with these graphics.

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Could the triangular craft be the "teapot"? Wind tunnel model certainly has a bulge large enough to be a cockpit. Then again, both do and UAVs often house communication equipment in that space.

The planform of the top pictures match, but the intake are on top so it doesn't exactly match what we've seen.

 

[LuzinskiJ]

imagine it can do stable turn in 20G.

If there were such UCAV, I would pay good money to see a show from a "August 1st"/"Blue Angels" aerobatics team comprise of these aircrafts.

 

[yanyan25]

Cross posting from CDF. (Source: Xinhui)