Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread

[Deino]

not sure what this is and where, is this Shenyang?

fake Picture, ignore

why are you so sure? You usually believe much more suspicious claims?

 

[Neurosmith]

why are you so sure? You usually believe much more suspicious claims?

Off-topic, but is there a way to get someone to expedite the approval of my CDF account? Same username.

 

[CannedFish]

Aerodynamics aren't problem, dogfighting drones(called missiles) are a thing for 7 decades now.

The more interesting thing is how to setup situational awareness in dogfight(and priority/fof logic in group fight with deteriorating comm picture), while still preferably costing less than a manned aircraft.

Otherwise what's the purpose of it, go optionally manned for same money and be happy.

Programs can be copied, mass-produced. It can be dissected for good aspects and those aspects can be added together to create a better program.

A pilot is a (literal) generational/lifetime investment and their skills will take longer to be passed down than simple copy-paste.

Of course, humans are more versatile and adaptive, but that also means they have value that can be put elsewhere.
They also need constant upkeep, a program can be stored as easy as that 1TB homework folder everyone has.

 

[Biscuits]

Calling things bluntly, the CAC's appears to be another Aircraft dedicated to military parade performances like the j20.
Unlike SAC one, which is a standalone multirole fighter product that will have real combat capabilities. At the very least, it can be used in the South China Sea like the J15.

Are you retarded? There's not a single platform in PRC history which is dedicated to performances, every single platform can do a flyby and the point of doing flybys is just to show the people that their money is being well spent on the military.

This is like thinking B-2s were built with the primary motivation of inaugurating superbowls.

 

[sutton999]

Calling things bluntly, the CAC's appears to be another Aircraft dedicated to military parade performances like the j20.
Unlike SAC one, which is a standalone multirole fighter product that will have real combat capabilities. At the very least, it can be used in the South China Sea like the J15.

from 59:00 mark if you want a short version.

 

[zlixOS]

Calling things bluntly, the CAC's appears to be another Aircraft dedicated to military parade performances like the j20.
Unlike SAC one, which is a standalone multirole fighter product that will have real combat capabilities. At the very least, it can be used in the South China Sea like the J15.

People said the same thing about the GJ-11

 

[taxiya]

Honestly that picture has been meddled with soo much, its practically impossible to get any worthwhile insight out of it. What's with the secrecy around SAC? Why so much?

So far all photos are not from official source, SAC isn't more secretive than CAC in their practice.

All other photos are taken from the ground outside of the premises of CAC and SAC. Although the photographers still take a big risk of being caught they aren't eactly breaking laws. This photo (if legit) is apparently taken inside SAC walls, leaking it out definitely means years in prison. It is only the photographer trying to save his own ass and has nothing to do with SAC policy.

 

[MonkeyEatingEagle]

Calling things bluntly, the CAC's appears to be another Aircraft dedicated to military parade performances like the j20.
Unlike SAC one, which is a standalone multirole fighter product that will have real combat capabilities. At the very least, it can be used in the South China Sea like the J15.

Perhaps you could try a little more backreading if you want more info, there's a lot of pages to get into, instead of this reverse psychology thing you're doing.

 

[taxiya]

Calling things bluntly, the CAC's appears to be another Aircraft dedicated to military parade performances like the j20.
Unlike SAC one, which is a standalone multirole fighter product that will have real combat capabilities. At the very least, it can be used in the South China Sea like the J15.

so you come here just to stir a fight between SAC and CAC? What is this BS of both 36011 and J20 being dedicated to parade?

Calling things bluntly, F-22 is a hangar queen.

 

[taxiya]

Perhaps you could try a little more backreading if you want more info, there's a lot of pages to get into, instead of this reverse psychology thing you're doing.

You are too polite to a troll.