Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and Global South strategic cooperation

coolgod

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It's actually everyone in the SCO but India who agreed with China's BRI. Everywhere else India goes where China is present, they becomes a spoiler for literally everyone in the venue.


He's right.

And shall I say - Russia did a very wrong (and stupid) move by naively believing that bringing India on board the SCO can work in Russia's favor to balance China's influence and prowess in the region.

And now, who is the one that actually backs Moscow the most, when Russia is forced to stand against the pressure from all of the Western world since late-February 2022? Please, Moscow, Wake the fvck up.

And seriously, India. Please do us a massive fvcking favor by getting rid of yourself from SCO.
I haven't seen any Russian media takes on India's recent behaviour in SCO but from what I've read Putin is pretty upset too. It was an important chance for him to bond with the leaders of the other SCO countries but India had to sabotage it to please the US.

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M. K. Bhadrakumar also gives his take on India and the recent SCO summit.
 
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xlitter

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I haven't seen any Russian media takes on India's recent behaviour in SCO but from what I've read Putin is pretty upset too. It was an important chance for him to bond with the leaders of the other SCO countries but India had to sabotage it to please the US.
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SteelBird

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It's actually everyone in the SCO but India who agreed with China's BRI.

Let me be frank - India is like a spoilt brat who goes around ruining the fun of everyone in gatherings that has China in it, mainly due to India throwing childish tantrums around to spite on China's face because his parents (i.e. the British Empire) instructed India to hate China on a very deep, very personal level based on circumstances that India's parents has delicately crafted a long time ago.


He's right.

In fact - Russia did a very wrong (and stupid) move by naively believing that bringing India on board the SCO can work in Russia's favor to balance China's influence and prowess in the region - Just like the Soviet Union back then.

Now, who is the one that actually backs Moscow the most when Russia is forced to stand against the pressure of coercion from all of the Western world since late-February 2022? Please, Moscow. Wake. The. Fvck. Up.

And seriously, New Delhi. Please do us all one massive fvcking favor by Get. The. Fvck. Out. Of SCO.
Is it possible to kick India out of SCO or even BRICS?
 

Biscuits

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Is it possible to kick India out of SCO or even BRICS?
If necessary, it will happen. Everyone going against India in the last summit already says a lot.

India was supposed to act as an useful market and testing ground for China to expand into. That function is increasingly not being fulfilled, even through that being the foundational reason for why India would be invited to the gatherings of the free, noncolonized countries, despite India being the prime example of a mentally and physically colonized degenerate.

It is looking more and more viable for China to work with specific Indian successor states while allowing other successor states to fully align with their colonisers, instead of helping Indian unity. If India doesn't abruptly change course, they will find themselves with the end of the British-led India experiment.
 

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Looks like Indian elites acknowledge India's recent actions to sabotage SCO.
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India and the SCO: Takeaways from the recent summit​

India’s hosting of the SCO summit so soon after the PM’s historic visit to the US is seen as a key marker of New Delhi’s strategic autonomy in the context of the Russia-Ukraine war. While differences with Beijing and Islamabad are likely to pose a challenge, it is important for New Delhi to make sure that its ties with other SCO countries get a boost through this grouping

Modi did, however, target both Pakistan and China over issues of terrorism and territorial integrity. With Xi and Shehbaz on the screen, Modi said some countries “use cross-border terrorism as an instrument” of policy, and the SCO should not hesitate to criticise them — there can be “no place for double standards on such serious matters”.

India is petty as f**k, if you watched the
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I posted earlier, you can see India deliberately left out China and Pakistan in the video screens for 99% of the time. Basically the only time it showed China and Pakistan was when Modi spoke about "terrorism".

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C Raja Mohan writes: Move over SCO and BRICS — swing states are set to take precedence​

Delhi will continue to sit in SCO and BRICS, but its growing bilateral engagement with key swing states — in resource rich Africa, capital rich Gulf, and technology-rich Europe — is likely to be far more consequential for India’s rise


Move over SCO and BRICS! Goldman Sachs, the global investment bank that talked of “dreaming with the BRICs” two decades ago, has a new idea now — “swing states” that will shape the global balance of power. Unlike BRICS and SCO, whose salience can only dim in the Indian strategic calculus, “swing states” are beginning to loom larger in
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Formally set up in 2006, the four initial members of the BRICs forum welcomed South Africa into their ranks in 2010 to make it BRICS. Both the SCO and the BRICS are now debating the expansion of their membership as the worldwide interest in them grows. Notwithstanding the ambitious plans for their expansion, the SCO and BRICS are running out of their geopolitical steam as the context that brought them together at the turn of the millennium no longer exists.
Meanwhile, India’s contradictions with China have sharpened while those with the US are being smoothed over.
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might have wanted a “multipolar world” in the 1990s, but its first preference today is a “multipolar Asia” — to stop the region from becoming China’s backyard.

If India opposes SCO due to security reason, India should still support BRICS. But like always India's crab mentality comes out in full display.

Like in the SCO, the contradictions within the BRICS are longer hidden. For Russia, the BRICS was about political moblisation against the US. Beijing, which enjoyed a growing relationship with the West in the 2000s, had a different dream — to leverage the forum to expand its economic and commercial influence. Now engaged in a fierce competition with the West, China sees the BRICS as a platform to legitimise its own global ambitions. For India, the RIC and BRIC were useful hedges against the potential threats from the US to its core national interests in the 1990s.
The geopolitics of BRICS looks quite different today. China has grown far more powerful than its former peers in the forum. Beijing’s GDP is bigger than all the other BRICS put together. Russia has locked itself into an expensive and unwinnable conflict with the collective West even as its relative economic weight continues to decline. As it bleeds from the Ukraine war, Moscow is now more dependent than ever before on China.

I don't think India can be kicked out of the SCO, but going forward China will start many nearby smaller groups and the SCO will adopt many motions without India's signature.
 
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Looks like Indian elites acknowledge India's recent actions to sabotage SCO.
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India and the SCO: Takeaways from the recent summit​

India’s hosting of the SCO summit so soon after the PM’s historic visit to the US is seen as a key marker of New Delhi’s strategic autonomy in the context of the Russia-Ukraine war. While differences with Beijing and Islamabad are likely to pose a challenge, it is important for New Delhi to make sure that its ties with other SCO countries get a boost through this grouping



India is petty as f**k, if you watched the
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I posted earlier, you can see India deliberately left out China and Pakistan in the video screens for 99% of the time. Basically the only time it showed China and Pakistan was when Modi spoke about "terrorism".

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C Raja Mohan writes: Move over SCO and BRICS — swing states are set to take precedence​

Delhi will continue to sit in SCO and BRICS, but its growing bilateral engagement with key swing states — in resource rich Africa, capital rich Gulf, and technology-rich Europe — is likely to be far more consequential for India’s rise






If India opposes SCO due to security reason, India should still support BRICS. But like always India's crab mentality comes out in full display.




I don't think India can be kicked out of the SCO, but going forward China will start many nearby smaller groups and the SCO will adopt many motions without India's signature.
The GSI can replace the SCO, in fact its initial members can be all the SCO minus India.
 

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Fan China Afghan Mining Processing and Trading Company (FAMPTC) has said it would spend USD 350 million in Afghanistan in the next months in several industries, including electricity generation, the building of a cement factory, and healthcare, reported Khaama Press


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1.2 MGD seawater desalination plant has finally been completed as per schedule. Formal inauguration is all set to be executed by Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif during his likely visit to Gwadar after Eid Holidays. Talking to Gwadar Pro, Gwadar Port Authority (GPA) project director Dawood Baloch said water desalination plant has been done and dusted with a grant of Rs. 2 billion from China in collaboration with Gwadar Port Authority (GPA), National Engineering Services Pakistan and China Harbor Engineering Company (CHEC).

"The Lula government plans to make investments of
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(US$325 million) in road and rail works throughout the country in the first half of 2023." The biggest national priority is completing (5) FIOL and connecting it with (1) FNS, which will connect east Amazon to the east Brazilian coast.

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The first section of Brazil’s West-East Integration Railway (FIOL) was inaugurated in Ilhéus, Bahia state, Brazil.

FIOL I spans 537 kilometers from Ilhéus to Caetité in Bahia, serving as an important logistics corridor capable of handling up to 60 million tons of cargo annually.
 

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TEGUCIGALPA, July 7 (Reuters) - The Honduran government on Friday told Chinese officials it is seeking investors to help fund construction of a proposed $20 billion rail line connecting the country's Atlantic and Pacific coasts, part of a binational trade and investment push.

Honduras and China have been negotiating a first-ever free trade pact linking their economies. Fredy Cerrato, the Honduran economic development minister, told reporters officials from both countries also discussed infrastructure projects relating to dams and power generation.

"We presented (Chinese officials) with the projects that Honduras is interested in getting financed, that are vital for the development of our country," said Cerrato.

"We're talking about building dams, the construction of an transoceanic train that also has to do with our electric generation system," said Cerrato.

He added that officials in China, the world's second largest economy, have shown interest in projects developed using both public and private funds.

The minister added that proposed train line could be ready in about 15 years.

Honduras and the Asian giant launched diplomatic relations in March, after the Central American nation ditched its longstanding ties with Taiwan in favor of mainland China and its economic leverage.

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TEGUCIGALPA, July 7 (Reuters) - The Honduran government on Friday told Chinese officials it is seeking investors to help fund construction of a proposed $20 billion rail line connecting the country's Atlantic and Pacific coasts, part of a binational trade and investment push.

Honduras and China have been negotiating a first-ever free trade pact linking their economies. Fredy Cerrato, the Honduran economic development minister, told reporters officials from both countries also discussed infrastructure projects relating to dams and power generation.

"We presented (Chinese officials) with the projects that Honduras is interested in getting financed, that are vital for the development of our country," said Cerrato.

"We're talking about building dams, the construction of an transoceanic train that also has to do with our electric generation system," said Cerrato.

He added that officials in China, the world's second largest economy, have shown interest in projects developed using both public and private funds.

The minister added that proposed train line could be ready in about 15 years.

Honduras and the Asian giant launched diplomatic relations in March, after the Central American nation ditched its longstanding ties with Taiwan in favor of mainland China and its economic leverage.

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Is it just me, or does the title of the article sound 'hostile' versus what is actually written in it? Not to mention, the various social media posts by Honduran officials sounding very positive about meetings with Chinese officials?
 
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