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TerraN_EmpirE said:

bogus. All points are valid. The selector is just the most visible problem. The tip of the proverbial iceberg. the Zero issue limits its users potential combat capabilities. The corrosive ammo and cleaning issue makes care and maintenance harder, the sling and stock may seem a nuisance but when you consider Russian infantry in compact thin armored vehicles facing combat situations where they are loosing alot of said vehicles. That could leave a soldier bailing out of a burning vehicle unarmed or not at all.
bogus, completely and utterly uninformed (And I am being nice)

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All points are valid? Really? Including the one where he complained about the stock not being compatible with whatever is considered popular in America? How important is a customisable shoulder stock for a standard issue infantryman rifle? The same applies to a gas valve and welded gas tube. The angle at which the handguard closes could be valid but is scraping the barrel.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

The rifles in question are not replica nor clones nor knockoff or fakes.
They are rebuilt from certified parts kits. The rail, top cover stock, gas block tube, receiver trunnion were in the kit and Stock AK12 parts. The bolt an barrel were replaced as they had been demilitarized.
Farther as the criticisms are targeted to the parts in the kit with not the replacement parts they have absolute barring. 9 hole even acknowledges that the one they had lacked a change that seems to have occurred in production. A change that would be familiar to anyone who knows M16 history, the change to chrome chambers barrels and gas blocks to address then in US service corrosive ammunition.
In essence you are saying that someone’s isn’t a “real Lamborghini” because the owner bought it used and had to replace muffler, pistons and tires. Everything else is original from the factory. It just wasn’t in running condition until it was repaired. Those rifles are AK12s.

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Try convincing a Lamborghini owner that. Factory original parts put in by an authorised garage or GTFO.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

Seriously. You are conflating personal bias with technical criticism. Brandon Herrera was insulting the Russian government before Ukraine well still wanting to sample the latest AKs. 9 Hole is about as a political in their review as can be.
Frankly I believe your dismissal is as your personal bias is blinding you from anything that doesn’t fit your preconceived notion’s.

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I'm not the one posting an internet review of it. I'm saying wait for feedback from the people actually using it, rather than some Anglo reviewer who's trying to cash in on the "Russia bad" that's infected youtube. And before you point out that one is an ABC and the other is some kind of Mexican I don't care.

As for my personal bias, what would that be? Granted I don't like Ukrainians, but I'm not exactly in love with Russians. Most of their gear this war has been underwhelming apart from their missiles, although I'm prepared to wait until the fog of war clears before casting judgement. In the Ukraine thread I made lots of posts about how poor/non existent Russian drones have been, apart from the Orlan which uses a lots of non-Russian parts for critical components. The Iranians are fielding better drones than the Russians right now. Russian arrogance to Chinese platforms has cost them lives. In the Su-75 thread I thought the whole project was a scam. Yet I'm personally biased somehow.

More like I'm tired of the western narrative that everything Russia makes is bad, and it's all because of corruption. It can't be that bad if despite billions being poured in over 2 months, Ukraine is getting wrecked and haven't been able to mount a single counter offensive the whole war. Something doesn't add up.

Abominable said:

All points are valid? Really? Including the one where he complained about the stock not being compatible with whatever is considered popular in America? How important is a customisable shoulder stock for a standard issue infantryman rifle?

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still on the Brandon video which as a civilian weapon would be valid. But as a military you are correct. The Galil Ace military model has that two… but is also retains the original removable gas tube.

The same applies to a gas valve and welded gas tube. The angle at which the handguard closes could be valid but is scraping the barrel.

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Which is funny again as despite welding the gas tube in place it doesn’t seem to have followed by a rail system that actually serves to modernize the weapon in a effective way.

Abominable said:

Try convincing a Lamborghini owner that. Factory original parts put in by an authorised garage or GTFO.

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… and if parts aren’t available any more?
Look In the video I posted the weapon was ranged and matched the Kalashnikov consortium performance. However the main points of issue were the parts that were not replaced. Which is the flaw with your argument. The hand guard dust cover stock latch. The bolt? The bolt of the AK12 hasn’t changed since the AK74, the barrel? Hasn’t changed. It’s basically the same weapon in a new skin.

Abominable said:

I'm not the one posting an internet review of it. I'm saying wait for feedback from the people actually using it, rather than some Anglo reviewer who's trying to cash in on the "Russia bad" that's infected youtube. And before you point out that one is an ABC and the other is some kind of Mexican I don't care.

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feed back we will never hear. Because that’s how it works…
You know what I take that back. Because we do have feedback, in the form of the AK12 found abandoned or captured with the selector broken. All of them lacking any sights, or accessories. Making them little better than the AK74M.
That Photos of Russian elite units for the last 4 years don’t show AK12 but AK74M with Zenet co aftermarket rails. Even Wagner group head by a confirmed NeoNazi.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

still on the Brandon video which as a civilian weapon would be valid. But as a military you are correct. The Galil Ace military model has that two… but is also retains the original removable gas tube.
Which is funny again as despite welding the gas tube in place it doesn’t seem to have followed by a rail system that actually serves to modernize the weapon in a effective way. …

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The 100 and 200 series have removable gas tubes. The Russians have the reasons omitting that in the AK-12, probably to keep things simple. I think the corrosive ammo issue is overblown and won't affect it's performance in a single theatre. It's certainly not a new problem.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

and if parts aren’t available any more?

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Doesn't really happen for premium cars. For very old cars if you've got the money they'll make what you need. You certainly can't frankenstein a Lamborghini with third party parts and not expect it to drop in value.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

Look In the video I posted the weapon was ranged and matched the Kalashnikov consortium performance. However the main points of issue were the parts that were not replaced. Which is the flaw with your argument. The hand guard dust cover stock latch. The bolt? The bolt of the AK12 hasn’t changed since the AK74, the barrel? Hasn’t changed. It’s basically the same weapon in a new skin. feed back we will never hear. Because that’s how it works…

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Any evidence Russians are worse at listening to soldier feedback compared to NATO countries? I can cite plenty of examples of western countries claiming all was fine with the M16, G36, L85A1, etc when the actual soldiers found out it wasn't. Before you write a multiple paragraphs debunking each of those as Russian disinformation, my point is that it's not uncommon for national pride, corruption, politics or whatever to affect procurement.

I don't think minimising changes with the AK platform is a bad thing. Time will tell whether it's a good upgrade or not, not some hobbyist youtuber.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

You know what I take that back. Because we do have feedback, in the form of the AK12 found abandoned or captured with the selector broken. All of them lacking any sights, or accessories. Making them little better than the AK74M.
That Photos of Russian elite units for the last 4 years don’t show AK12 but AK74M with Zenet co aftermarket rails. Even Wagner group head by a confirmed NeoNazi.

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The gun still fires with the selector pushed down, it'll just be stuck in full auto. As I said it's something that needs to be addressed, but hardly enough for you to call it a bad gun.

Which army has their special forces use the same rifle as common infantrymen? Again, do you apply this same benchmark to other new production rifles?

Abominable said:

In Mariupol, the Nazis are still holed up in the basement begging everyone to save them.
It's clear they were hiding there for most of the battle of Mariupol while Ukraine soldiers were fighting and dying on the streets.
Apparently they've brought children down with them.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1517743375075758083

That could be fake to try and stop the Russians from drowning them all. I don't know if it's true, but it seems to be working for now.

I'm 100% sure Azov have practiced cannibalism at this point. They have had no supplies since the start of the war, and despite that they all look fat. Notice how there are no more reports about French or other foreign soldiers being there. I think they've all been eaten already.

Cannibalism affects your soul, if you've done it once you'll forever be hungry for human meat. Not even the Siberian gulag can cure that hunger.

I think the most humane thing for the Russians to do at this point is just to flood the bunkers and stop the Ukrainians from doing worse things to themselves.

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Do we even know if this video itself is recent?

Larry Vickers got to try a Kalashnikov-built AK-12, he seemed ok with it

Abominable said:

I don't think minimising changes with the AK platform is a bad thing. Time will tell whether it's a good upgrade or not, not some hobbyist youtuber

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I find this hilarious as Herrera is a manufacturer. The other Video is a combat vet.
Vickers didn’t get very much time with it. Even if he did it was still in preproduction. He probably cut them a ton is slack.farther it’s well known that paid reviews tend to be fairly favorable.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

I find this hilarious as Herrera is a manufacturer. The other Video is a combat vet.
Vickers didn’t get very much time with it. Even if he did it was still in preproduction. He probably cut them a ton is slack.farther it’s well known that paid reviews tend to be fairly favorable.

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What guns does he manufacture and what sort of production numbers? Forgive me, but I've never heard of a Herrera gun.

For a gun manufacturer he seems to have a lot of time to upload meme gun videos to youtube.

However it seems that in real life, they are under-equipped

The UR-77 "Meteorite" mine-clearing installation, also known as the "Snake Gorynych", was created on the basis of the 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer and is designed to make moves in anti-tank minefields during the battle. The UR-77 "Meteorite" installation, with the help of rockets, fires powder charges placed in hoses at a distance of about 500 meters. After that, the car drives back, the hose with the charge is stretched and it is activated. One of the episodes of the combat use of the UR-77 in Ukraine was caught on video

we are on day 60 and majority of strikes are still at lower altitude once you include gunships.