Russia Economy Thread

pmc

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Kazak deputies asking State Duma of Russia to resurrect Soviet project of transferring water from Siberia to Central Asia and with added bonus of water navigation. I think Russia is perfectly capable of implementing this project alone. They have imported 8 times more construction equipment from China this year and based on custom official there are 200m people residing in the sanctioned part of economic union. perhaps extracted alot of People from Ukraine.

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He recalled that in 1976, at the XXV Congress of the CPSU, the highest level of government at that time, it was decided to start work on the implementation of a project to transfer part of the flow of Siberian rivers to Kazakhstan and Central Asia. More than 160 specialized scientific organizations of the country worked on the project, including 32 union ministries and 9 ministries of the union republics. 50 volumes of calculations and applied scientific research were prepared.

"A grandiose construction of a system of canals and reservoirs was being prepared, which included, among other things, the opening of navigation through the Asia Canal: the Kara Sea - the Caspian Sea - the Persian Gulf, the commissioning of more than 14 million hectares of irrigated land. After the well-known events of 1991, the project naturally stopped ", - reminded the Majilisman.
I take this opportunity to appeal to my colleagues - deputies of the State Duma of Russia with a proposal to carefully consider the possibility of joint implementation of the mega project of diverting part of the flow of Siberian rivers.All scientific and technical justifications for this are available.As and in the project for the construction of the Baikal-Amur Mainline at one time,this project will not only create tens of thousands of new jobs for citizens of all participating states, but will also give a powerful impetus to the development of economies for many years to come, will solve a whole range of environmental and social problems of the population of all project participating states, will bring integration processes between strategic partners," deputy Egizbayev said.

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Almost three times the import of Chinese cars has grown, a very serious growth in special equipment and trucks. Through Zabaikalsk, we have almost eight times growth in construction equipment in five months in annual terms," Davydov said.
According to him, with the departure from Russia, the Europeans gave the Chinese a giant chance to develop their auto industry. "Therefore, I think the Europeans are shooting themselves in the foot, they have cut off the market of 200 million people," he added.
 

gelgoog

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I heard that in a lot of cases cars were ordered last year but the orders only came through this year.

There was also likely a lot of uncertainty. People in Russia wanted to see if they would get support for their cars before committing to a purchase. Now that some Chinese car manufacturers are getting stable chains those are starting to sell.

Car factories in Russia are also recovering from the interruption caused by the loss of Western parts supplies. KAMAZ already recovered production including of their new K5 truck model. AvtoVAZ i.e. Lada massively ramped up production of older models which did not use Western parts supplies and recently restarted production of their latest models with non-Western parts.

Some car factories which build cars on a license have switched from Western to Chinese car designs and have resumed production. We will probably see the results at the end of the year or maybe next year.

There was some consumer reluctance to buy Chinese cars initially but I think that has mostly been overcome. And given how people seldom switch car brands, any changes are likely to stay.
 

pmc

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VTB bank is calling for Clearing system in Gulf states in Russia Financial congress. he is likely influenced by concentration of wealth and high personal preference of real estate by Russian buyers in UAE. but do Gulf states really want to collapse West considering there investments and interdependency.

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“We’ve all faced the Euroclear and Clearstream problem. We believe that one of the Persian Gulf states could host the new financial depository, given the concentration of the capital in that region,” Kostin said, at the Bank of Russia Financial Congress in St. Petersburg.

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AssassinsMace

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I was watching Vivek Ramaswamy being interviewed on CNN yesterday. His whole foreign policy is to lure Russia away from China. He says Russia doesn't want to play second fiddle to China. You mean Russia would be treated equally to the US if they were allied? The US expects everyone even its own official allies to be a subordinate to the US in every aspect. That's why Europe is in the sorry state it's in. Russia would be in a lesser position than they are with BRICS. Vivek Ramaswamy does have something correct. He's tapping into what Republicans want to get votes. The reason why you have some Republicans on Russia's side over Ukraine is because they were hoping after the Cold War that Russia was going to help keep white supremacy continuing in this world. They loved the racism against Obama that came out of Russia. They saw Russia was going to be their white supremacist ally.

I love how Republicans think Russia has been forced into this relationship with and by China. No the US did that and now they think they can exploit something "they forced" in the first place. They're still believing that Putin was going to be Trump's lapdog when it was the other way around. Interesting to see what will happen if Trump wins the next Presidential election. And then a Democrat becomes President and what will Russia do when the winds change so frequently in the US?
 

Eventine

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Republicans are racist, no question about that; but beyond white supremacy they also generally sympathize with Russia’s values, like nationalism, conservatism, and just generally being against anything progressive. They see a great white alliance as the ticket to returning things to the way they were - when women and minorities “knew their place.”

So the main Republican strategy is to focus the hate on China and strike a grand bargain to end the war - sacrificing Ukraine if necessary - so they can get Russia on “their side.”

Democrats on the other hand have to maintain their image as progressives. So their hands are tied with Russia.
 

ShaoLaoDragon

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I heard that in a lot of cases cars were ordered last year but the orders only came through this year.

There was also likely a lot of uncertainty. People in Russia wanted to see if they would get support for their cars before committing to a purchase. Now that some Chinese car manufacturers are getting stable chains those are starting to sell.

Car factories in Russia are also recovering from the interruption caused by the loss of Western parts supplies. KAMAZ already recovered production including of their new K5 truck model. AvtoVAZ i.e. Lada massively ramped up production of older models which did not use Western parts supplies and recently restarted production of their latest models with non-Western parts.

Some car factories which build cars on a license have switched from Western to Chinese car designs and have resumed production. We will probably see the results at the end of the year or maybe next year.

There was some consumer reluctance to buy Chinese cars initially but I think that has mostly been overcome. And given how people seldom switch car brands, any changes are likely to stay.

Agreed. I expect Russia to fully decouple with the West about a year or maybe 2 from now. Russia built a very extensive supply chain with the West after Cold War ended.
 

ShaoLaoDragon

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Republicans are racist, no question about that; but beyond white supremacy they also generally sympathize with Russia’s values, like nationalism, conservatism, and just generally being against anything progressive. They see a great white alliance as the ticket to returning things to the way they were - when women and minorities “knew their place.”

So the main Republican strategy is to focus the hate on China and strike a grand bargain to end the war - sacrificing Ukraine if necessary - so they can get Russia on “their side.”

Democrats on the other hand have to maintain their image as progressives. So their hands are tied with Russia.

Russia has nothing to gain by being subservient to the West. Chinese are friendly people who do not treat others like second class citizens. Russians can get whatever they want from China as equal partners. Russians will never trust the West again after what the West did to Russia after the Cold War.
 
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