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slackpiv

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Thank you. But i would like to know whether or not Sino defence refers to the old Victor III or the improved Victor III.
 

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They were initially supposed to construct the "093 project" submarine as an improved variety of the Soviet Victor III nuclear attack submarine equipped with the following major weapons:

* submerge-launched anti-ship cruise missile with a range of less than 100 km;

* anti-submarine missile with 40-km range.

It seems that the "093 project" equipped with HN-3B long-range LACMs is a greatly improved variety of Victor III.

Probably the PLA has no intention of constructing additional "093 project" submarines, which belong, in general, to the world level of the 1980s.
 

MIGleader

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newsmax is a redicoulous site. never try to obtain any hints about unclear info from it, cause its bound to be false. it sounds liek some russian wrote this. no more 93s? a third ones in construction as we speak. its gone far mroe modern that the original 1980s specs called form this guy seems to be putting faith in kilos, but they can only take you so far.
 

slackpiv

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That artical's over 3 years old.
[QUOTEits gone far mroe modern that the original 1980s specs called form .[/QUOTE]

Evidence? So far all sources point to the same direction, Compares favorably to the Victor III with advanced weapon system. however, i woudln't be surprised if the submarine performs the same role as the Russian Oscar class.
 

darth sidious

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slackpiv

the 093 maybe more oriented toward attacking large surface target then a purely asw weapn

china can relie on its numerous SSK for asw
 

slackpiv

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agreed, thus the reason i stated that the 093 might turn out to be similar in role as the OSCAR class. However SSKs are inefficient in ASW missions due to their lack of endurance and speed. And ASW is an area where China needs to improve.
 

darth sidious

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thats beacause in the past all of chinas enemy has a weak submarine force

the Taiwanese has some WWII age submarine one kilo is enough to hunt them down

if a war breaks out over taiwan then the ssk will most likely to swamp the asw befence through a mass missile attack

the current udaloy deal with the russians should help to improve asw ability
 

slackpiv

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thats beacause in the past all of chinas enemy has a weak submarine force
The Russians submarine force was at the time of their height almost on par with the USN. SSKs have very limited ASW capability due to their lack of speed.
 

darth sidious

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Russian ssk will not launch a sea born invasion on china

also most of the Russian sub in the 60s.early 70s are very NOISEY

and not hard to track
 

slackpiv

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Russian ssk will not launch a sea born invasion on china

also most of the Russian sub in the 60s.early 70s are very NOISEY

and not hard to track
By standards now yes. Standards back then not as so. However they were still a lot quieter than the HAN. And exactly with wat was China going to track them with? Of course Russian ssks will not launch a sea born invasion of China. I doubt any country will have the resolve or stupidity to invade China.
 
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