possible confrontation scenario with the US

actually, the han is alot quiter thna 60s era soviet subs, not to mention safer. it features french sonar, and anechoic tiling. but its still really noisy. russian subs in the 60s were big and loud, and ususally were shadowed anywhere they went, from the sea of oskotsk to cuba. soviet ssks however, were much quieter than their nuclear counter parts. at the time of its release, the kilo was the quitest and most advanced ssk in the worlds. now, its lost some of its edge to europe, but its weapons armaments give it an edge.

Nope the HAN (before the refits, which really didn't do much) is considered to be the noisiest SSN ever built. Even noisier than the Nautilus.

and here is time when i ask you for proof. i mean sites. ive never heard of the noisiest sub, simply "among" the noisiest.

the noverber class is the noisiest submarine

the han has a better hull design and only one reactor

the november has two very noisey reactor and numerous flood holes along the hull

single screw is also less noisey the the wo on the november

the han is more on par with the early victory class

darth sidious said:

the noverber class is the noisiest submarine

the han has a better hull design and only one reactor

the november has two very noisey reactor and numerous flood holes along the hull

single screw is also less noisey the the wo on the november

the han is more on par with the early victory class

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Please provide proof before you make such broadstroke comments.

The HAN subs rarely go to sea, and when they do, they are track on their entire route.

Hello ppl this is my first post on this forum. I want to share this article with you which really brings to light the actual capabilities of the USN.

and here is time when i ask you for proof. i mean sites. ive never heard of the noisiest sub, simply "among" the noisiest.

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I learned it from discussion with experts.

yeah, thats really going to make me beilive you.:roll: can you actually post the site, or the source?

none of sinodefences professional members seem to think so. the han isnt as outdated as most people think.

MIGleader said:

yeah, thats really going to make me beilive you.:roll: can you actually post the site, or the source?

none of sinodefences professional members seem to think so. the han isnt as outdated as most people think.

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The HAN SSN did go through a mid-life update pretty recently. I have no doubt it's been somewhat improved with the anechoic tiling and maybe a rework of reactor systems(???). But it's performance remains edgy at best. On 10 November 2004 it was tracked deep in 300 meters of water pretty easily by JMSDF. Apparently, keeping a track was pretty easy. That does not indicate a quiet design. Source: globalsecurity(HAN SSN)

HAN SSN is basically an outdated nuclear submarine. If it was viable now, China wouldn't be pursuing the 093 with such vigour as they are now. But on the same note, I find it interesting that most sources speculate the HAN to remain in service up to 2015. That means it does have some kind of usefulness. But still, I have yet to find a source giving it the credence of modern nuclear designs of LA or Akula levels. Not even Alfa, Sierra, Victor, Permit, or Sturgeon.

i think the plan sent the han in to intentionally be detected. if stealth was a true target of the mission, the chinese wouldve used a kilo. it sends a message: our submaries will infiltrate your sea space if conflict arises

the han is a very outdated submarine, but cannot be called the noisiest in the world