PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

[tphuang]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Because ONI report that said Chinese submarine rarely went on patrol ! So much for that BS

Please read from above. We just established what patrol means and also that Chinese nuclear submarines actually go on patrol very frequently.

Thanks for the info. I do read Chinese. But you do admit from previous post, this is from a.man translation other than quote from video. I never read the translation and just watch the video. May I know the reliability of this loose translation? How did they get the info of the exact spot and distance travel for the voyage since the video never mention anything about it? I believe the video is more authentic since the reporter got all the relevant info from PLAN and report exactly what PLAN want the public to know.

This seems to be a pretty wide spread declassification. TV report is part of what came out, but what was posted by a.man is another part of what came out. That 90 days trip was part of sea trials. Which made sense since PLAN was still testing out to see if their new nuclear sub can handle something like that. I'm going to write about this, but all the news really made a lot of sense in that it showed why 091 was still being built as late as 1990. And why 401 and 402 got retired while the other three are still operating. It really looks like a very methodical and PLAN approach to development. Unfortunately back in the 80s and early 90s, PLAN really didn't have any money, so these things took a lot longer than would be ideal.

 

[escobar]

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Yin also said the movements of Chinese submarines have not been detected by foreign nations during any of their patrol missions

Even the most zealous of PLA fanboys will struggle to believe that.

 

[Jeff Head]

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Yin also said the movements of Chinese submarines have not been detected by foreign nations during any of their patrol missions.

I agree with a lot of the information in the post you made Hendrik, but the quote above makes me chuckle.

Do you really think that the old Xia and old Han class subs were never detected by western submarines?

Clearly, the US, UK, Japan, and others would not radio or send a message to Yin and the PLAN and tell them, so there is no way he could know this from western reports. But I am sure he knows better just the same, from his own naval reports and intelligence.

The Type 091 subs and the Type 092 were all very loud indeed as acoustc signatures go, and the US did in fact track them all. Their newer subs are getting much better...but still about 2 generations behind. But trhey are catching up quickly, and the Type 095 and Type 096 are going to be probably pushing the envelope. The PLAN should be proud of how far they have come in a realtive short time.

 

[Blackstone]

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Despite the myriad of missions he claims the nuclear-powered submarines have undertaken, Yin said that no nuclear accident has ever occurred involving the PLA Navy. Yin also said the movements of Chinese submarines have not been detected by foreign nations during any of their patrol missions.

It's believable no serious nuclear accidents occurred, but it's not believable the USN, ROKN, and IJN didn't detect China's noisy first gen SSNs on some of their patrols.

 

[asif iqbal]

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Chinese nuclear reactor technology in the military has made big strides in the recent years as has it in the civilian sector

We can know that Type 095 SSN and Type 096 SSBN will be really advanced I just wonder what level of enriched Uranium they use in thier reactor cores

 

[Blitzo]

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Can anyone actually point to the video and time where the admiral makes this eyebrow raising claim?

I mean we shouldn't draw too much from this comment. Chances are the submarines have been detected – but at the same time I imagine it would be PLAN policy to either not comment or simply lie through their teeth.

 

[asif iqbal]

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Plus wasn't there a nuclear incident in 2011?

 

[Blitzo]

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There were rumours that an 094 had a reactor leak but nothing half substantial. It was widely circulated in the west of course just like chinas supposed imminent su-35 buy or that J-20 is an interceptor

 

[AssassinsMace]

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Wasn't that story reported by the Japanese? If I recall correctly it happened after the tsunami disaster which brings to question if the Japanese were just trying to divert attention from their Fukushima nuclear scandal.

 

[kroko]

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PLA sub reports not a pot shot at Japan: Chinese admiral

Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo of the People's Liberation Army Navy told the People's Daily online, the website of the Chinese Communist Party newspaper, on Tuesday that the report of a Chinese nuclear-powered submarine base in Qingdao by China News Service had nothing to do with the military exercise launched by the Japanese Self-Defense Force.

Yin stated that the first nuclear-powered submarine force of China was established in the 1970s and designated as Unit Nine under the order of Chairman Mao Zedong. For the past 42 years, Yin said, Chinese nuclear-powered submarines have played a crucial role in defending China from foreign attacks with their powerful nuclear deterrent capabilities.

Despite the myriad of missions he claims the nuclear-powered submarines have undertaken, Yin said that no nuclear accident has ever occurred involving the PLA Navy. Yin also said the movements of Chinese submarines have not been detected by foreign nations during any of their patrol missions.

Since the announcement that an 18-day exercise will be held by the Japan Self-Defense Force between the regions of Okinawa and Kyushu, there has been speculation that Beijing was sending a warning to Tokyo by publishing pictures of its nuclear submarines at their base in Qingdao for the first time. Yin denied these claims and said now was a good time for the world to understand the history and development of the Chinese nuclear-powered submarine.

Yin did concede however that publishing the photos of the PLA North Sea Fleet's nuclear-powered submarine base sends a strong message to other countries that China is able to defend itself with its nuclear capability. That message is a warning to any country with ambitions of attacking China, Yin, said, not specifically Japan.

This is a wantchinatimes article. wantchinatimes is a Taiwanese news source.

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I have checked peoples daily and found no such story in there, at least not in the english-language website. Searched chinese internet and also couldnt find it.

Can anyone find this story?