PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

[kwaigonegin]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

First welcome to the forum Platopuss. Secondly, I have to disagree with your argument there. Since when does displaying one's technological achievements equates to good "understanding of doctrine"? The priority of any military is to protect the people living in that land in any way possible without stepping overboard with the authority and power given to the military by the government and its people. Did the US Navy, Seal Team Six reveal all their equipment's and weapons when they successfully went after Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan?

Let's not forget that the F-117 had been flying and operational for a decade before being acknowledge and shown publicly for the first time. There are countless other 'black' projects or military technologies that most people will never know about or see.
While I have no concrete proof I am also quite certain the US already has a hypersonic plane operational.

 

[Equation]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Let's not forget that the F-117 had been flying and operational for a decade before being acknowledge and shown publicly for the first time. There are countless other 'black' projects or military technologies that most people will never know about or see.
While I have no concrete proof I am also quite certain the US already has a hypersonic plane operational.

Like the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird? I love that plane.

 

[kwaigonegin]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Like the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird? I love that plane.

no faster than even the blackbird.. we're talking Mach 5+ or even higher with ram/scramjet pulse engines.
SR-71 was conceived and develop in the 1960s.. I find it hard to believe in over 40 yrs they have not developed something even faster and more capable in replacing it. There are things that a very fast very high attitude jet can do than even the best satellites can't achieve for recon.

 

[getready]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

First welcome to the forum Platopuss. Secondly, I have to disagree with your argument there. Since when does displaying one's technological achievements equates to good "understanding of doctrine"? The priority of any military is to protect the people living in that land in any way possible without stepping overboard with the authority and power given to the military by the government and its people. Did the US Navy, Seal Team Six reveal all their equipment's and weapons when they successfully went after Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan?

indeed, i doubt the US govt will reveal fully the details of their SOF secretive operations in over
100 countries to the rest of the world or even their own people.

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[delft]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

indeed, i doubt the US govt will reveal fully the details of their SOF secretive operations in over
100 countries to the rest of the world or even their own people.

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OT, but cited from the atimes article:

"While Olson made reference to only 51 countries of top concern to SOCOM, Nye told me that on any given day, Special Operations forces are deployed in approximately 70 nations around the world. All of them, he hastened to add, at the request of the host government."

"According to testimony by Olson before the House Armed Services Committee earlier this year, approximately 85% of special operations troops deployed overseas are in 20 countries in the CENTCOM area of operations in the Greater Middle East: Afghanistan, Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, and Yemen."

The governments of Iran, Syria and Lebanon will not have have requested the deployment of what they surely consider to be state sponsored terrorists.

Btw when will a US president use them within the US? The CIA was proved to be guilty of illegal operations in the US a long time ago and the US has developed itself to a surveillance state over the last ten years so the danger is clearly present.

 

[Equation]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

no faster than even the blackbird.. we're talking Mach 5+ or even higher with ram/scramjet pulse engines.
SR-71 was conceived and develop in the 1960s.. I find it hard to believe in over 40 yrs they have not developed something even faster and more capable in replacing it. There are things that a very fast very high attitude jet can do than even the best satellites can't achieve for recon.

Yeah that means the pilots (if it's man operated) will have to don space suits to handle higher g levels.

 

[lostsoul]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

no faster than even the blackbird.. we're talking Mach 5+ or even higher with ram/scramjet pulse engines.
SR-71 was conceived and develop in the 1960s.. I find it hard to believe in over 40 yrs they have not developed something even faster and more capable in replacing it. There are things that a very fast very high attitude jet can do than even the best satellites can't achieve for recon.

The Aurora.

 

[Red___Sword]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

The Aurora.

We are massively OT, but:

I heard of Aurora before, I believe it's an 1980s' project, and - didn't X-43 kind of stuff an answer to the Aurora's untimely death? (end of cold war). X-43, not the X-47B, which flys at the JUNCTION of atmospher and sapce, surfing.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Has anyone seen this before?

 

[timepass]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Suggests that these QING class ordered by PN (Total 6).