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Re: The PICs every PLAN enthusiast is waiting for

Spartan95 said:

I think Shui Hu is taboo in China. Of the 4 great literary classics, 2 have had a new, high budget TV series made (3 Kingdoms & Journey to the West), but Shui Hu and Dream of Red Mansions have not. Shui Hu is politically charged, while Red Mansions is too draggy.

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That's hardly an indication that Shui Hu is taboo. The Shui Hu TV series was made in an era that was much more restrictive than today. Not to mention the myriads of books, spin-off movies and cultural references to it.

Also, the new Red Mansion has been in production for a few years now.

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vesicles said:

What??? The freshly made and brand new Shui Hu is now being shown on CCTV as we speak. I think they just finished showing the new Dream of Red Mansions not long ago. The only novel that does not have the new series yet is the Journey to the West, which is scheduled to come on TV in April.

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I haven't heard of a new Shui Hu, but the new Journey to the West (it's crap) has been out for a while now. Unless you're talking about the *other* new version.

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solarz said:

I haven't heard of a new Shui Hu, but the new Journey to the West (it's crap) has been out for a while now. Unless you're talking about the *other* new version.

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Here is a website for the new Shui Hu



About the Journey to the West. The one you talk about is the one made by some local TV station (Zhe jiang) a couple years ago. We watched about 2 episodes and decided not to continue... However, a new one is coming out in a couple months, made by Zhang Jizhong.



Here is a website for the new Dream of Red Mansions that only came out after the new year



And to make things complete, here is a website for the new 3 Kingdom



So all the 4 famous novels get new editions coming out within a span of one year (late 2010 to mid 2011)

Re: The PICs every PLAN enthusiast is waiting for

Originally Posted by vesicles
What about those navy commanders described in the novel Shui Hu, which perhaps has the most naval battles described in a novel.

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Unlike " three kingtom ",the novel "Shui Hu" is completely a fiction, all the people in the novel are not real, execpt Song Jiang is the real historical person.
I heard that the new " Shui Hu " TV series talk about Wu Song loves his sister in law Pan Jinlian, - Wu Song, the hero who killed the tiger by his fist.

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vesicles said:

Here is a website for the new Shui Hu

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Fascinating! I stand corrected on that issue. Never expected that a new Shui Hu series will be made.

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maozedong said:

I heard that the new " Shui Hu " TV series talk about Wu Song loves his sister in law Pan Jinlian, - Wu Song, the hero who killed the tiger by his fist.

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No, that's all media making up stuff.. I watched that part and in no way what-so-ever that Wu Song feels anything for Pan JinLian. The series made it exactly as the novel describes. Pan Jinlian likes Wu Song and tries to seduce him and Wu Song was as firm as a man can be in terms of saying "NO" and does not hesitate one bit to turn her down. Also as the novel says, Wu Song warns Pan not to do anything that would embarrass the Wu family when he leaves. So absolutely nothing even remotely implying Wu feels anything what-so-ever for Pan.

I think the website is trying to make up stuff to get people to watch the series. This is a bad way of generating publicity...

However, the part about those officials saying Lin Chong as being as beautiful as the most beautiful girl in Chinese history is true. As you guys can see on the website, the guy playing Lin Chong looks like a skinny old man, nothing close to even a handsome young man that Lin Chong should be. So hearing those officials saying those words and seeing this old skinny man with a donkey face being described as a beautiful girl is pretty creepy...

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Spartan95 said:

Fascinating! I stand corrected on that issue. Never expected that a new Shui Hu series will be made.

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I have high expectation for the new Journey to the West. The producer for the new series is Zhang Jizhong who is known for special effects and epic scenes. As we all know, this novel is all about special effects. So I think Zhang would be an excellent choice to make the series. I've watched the trailer and it looks cool.

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Jeff Head said:

Here's are a couple of pics everyopne who is watching the growth of the PLAN is waiting to see. When it occurs for real, we will hear the celebration all the way across the ocean in America.

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I dont think that you will find anyone in the USA celebrating varyag entering service, except the sino-american community.

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kroko said:

I dont think that you will find anyone in the USA celebrating varyag entering service, except the sino-american community.

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I think what Jeff means is that the celebration would be so loud in China, people in the States could hear it as well.

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vesicles said:

I think what Jeff means is that the celebration would be so loud in China, people in the States could hear it as well.

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neither that. Varyag was built in soviet union. Its not a true chinese aircraft carrier. I dont think that chinese people will feel much about it as they felt about j-20

there is another aspect: the diplomacy aspect. Aircraft carriers are force projecting assets, unlike fighter jets which can be showed as being defensive in nature. As a nation, china has every right to have aircraft carriers. However, no one likes to have a single party nation equipped with aircraft carriers in its vicinity. China´s neighbours are going to have to live with it, but china must be careful on how they present it. IMO, in the first months/year they should keep low profile and not make much out of it, cause if not it could really play into the "china threat" theory.