PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

SteelBird said:

BD, two quick questions:

1). on the photo above (CV-41?) aircrafts park fully on the desk, if some aircraft comes in and want to land, how does it do?

2). I notice the front part of the carrier, there are many things look like antena on both side of the carrier's nose, what are they?

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Sorry I did not see your post until today...

1) That picture was taken prior to launch. Launch and recovery are seperate events.
2) Those are radio communication antenna..

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

SteelBird said:

BD, two quick questions:

1). on the photo above (CV-41?) aircrafts park fully on the desk, if some aircraft comes in and want to land, how does it do?

2). I notice the front part of the carrier, there are many things look like antena on both side of the carrier's nose, what are they?

Click to expand...

Sorry I did not see your post until today...

1) That picture was taken prior to launch. Launch and recovery are seperate events.
2) Those are radio communication antenna..

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

SteelBird said:

BD, two quick questions:

1). on the photo above (CV-41?) aircrafts park fully on the desk, if some aircraft comes in and want to land, how does it do?

2). I notice the front part of the carrier, there are many things look like antena on both side of the carrier's nose, what are they?

Click to expand...

Sorry I did not see your post until today...

1) That picture was taken prior to launch. Launch and recovery are seperate events.
2) Those are radio communication antenna..

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Smashing stuff Scratch. You're getting ahead of the game, lol.

Here's my catch-up idea, basically an incremental enhancement of conventional thinking with a few original touches:


Anywhere from the 50,000t upwards, nuclear powered and using ski-jumps in order to accomodate the (soon) legacy Su-33, though hopefully with TVC.

The medium/long range SAMs (S-400 "small" is best IMO but whatever) are in VLS between the ski-jumps. There'd be Type-730s and QW-4 SAMs as well (not drawn).

The most obvious feature is the minimalised above-deck structure which houses the secondary 3-D search radar, navigation radars etc. It would also house the small deck-control bridge (no windows on starboard side to reduce RCS). The main navigation bridge is below the ski-jump (the dark band is the windows). Above/behind the bridge under the ski-jumps are the YJ-62 cruise missiles and phased-array fire control radars.

The main radars would be phased arrays which are mounted on the hull and would be similar to those on the Type-52C.

It would also have some SS-N-29 ASW missiles and some Y-7 lightweight torpedoes.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Smashing stuff Scratch. You're getting ahead of the game, lol.

Here's my catch-up idea, basically an incremental enhancement of conventional thinking with a few original touches:


Anywhere from the 50,000t upwards, nuclear powered and using ski-jumps in order to accomodate the (soon) legacy Su-33, though hopefully with TVC.

The medium/long range SAMs (S-400 "small" is best IMO but whatever) are in VLS between the ski-jumps. There'd be Type-730s and QW-4 SAMs as well (not drawn).

The most obvious feature is the minimalised above-deck structure which houses the secondary 3-D search radar, navigation radars etc. It would also house the small deck-control bridge (no windows on starboard side to reduce RCS). The main navigation bridge is below the ski-jump (the dark band is the windows). Above/behind the bridge under the ski-jumps are the YJ-62 cruise missiles and phased-array fire control radars.

The main radars would be phased arrays which are mounted on the hull and would be similar to those on the Type-52C.

It would also have some SS-N-29 ASW missiles and some Y-7 lightweight torpedoes.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Smashing stuff Scratch. You're getting ahead of the game, lol.

Here's my catch-up idea, basically an incremental enhancement of conventional thinking with a few original touches:


Anywhere from the 50,000t upwards, nuclear powered and using ski-jumps in order to accomodate the (soon) legacy Su-33, though hopefully with TVC.

The medium/long range SAMs (S-400 "small" is best IMO but whatever) are in VLS between the ski-jumps. There'd be Type-730s and QW-4 SAMs as well (not drawn).

The most obvious feature is the minimalised above-deck structure which houses the secondary 3-D search radar, navigation radars etc. It would also house the small deck-control bridge (no windows on starboard side to reduce RCS). The main navigation bridge is below the ski-jump (the dark band is the windows). Above/behind the bridge under the ski-jumps are the YJ-62 cruise missiles and phased-array fire control radars.

The main radars would be phased arrays which are mounted on the hull and would be similar to those on the Type-52C.

It would also have some SS-N-29 ASW missiles and some Y-7 lightweight torpedoes.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

It would also house the small deck-control bridge (no windows on starboard side to reduce RCS). The main navigation bridge is below the ski-jump (the dark band is the windows).

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Intresting design.

A couple of things. I don't care what navy is operating a a CV you need someone with real eyes to see the flight deck. No windows on the starboad side is a bad idea. Sorry. Someone in a position of authority needs to oversee the flight deck operations. Usally a commander. He's called the "air Boss" on a USN CV. He's as close to God as it gets.

Next..I think the IJN may have had a CV with the bridge where you placed it. But....It's going to be noisey in there..make that very noisey in there with aircraft launching over head. Not to mention if they have to fire missiles they will not be able to launch aircraft or hear....

I like the stealthy looks of the ship With a few minor refinements it will be a fine design.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

It would also house the small deck-control bridge (no windows on starboard side to reduce RCS). The main navigation bridge is below the ski-jump (the dark band is the windows).

Click to expand...

Intresting design.

A couple of things. I don't care what navy is operating a a CV you need someone with real eyes to see the flight deck. No windows on the starboad side is a bad idea. Sorry. Someone in a position of authority needs to oversee the flight deck operations. Usally a commander. He's called the "air Boss" on a USN CV. He's as close to God as it gets.

Next..I think the IJN may have had a CV with the bridge where you placed it. But....It's going to be noisey in there..make that very noisey in there with aircraft launching over head. Not to mention if they have to fire missiles they will not be able to launch aircraft or hear....

I like the stealthy looks of the ship With a few minor refinements it will be a fine design.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

It would also house the small deck-control bridge (no windows on starboard side to reduce RCS). The main navigation bridge is below the ski-jump (the dark band is the windows).

Click to expand...

Intresting design.

A couple of things. I don't care what navy is operating a a CV you need someone with real eyes to see the flight deck. No windows on the starboad side is a bad idea. Sorry. Someone in a position of authority needs to oversee the flight deck operations. Usally a commander. He's called the "air Boss" on a USN CV. He's as close to God as it gets.

Next..I think the IJN may have had a CV with the bridge where you placed it. But....It's going to be noisey in there..make that very noisey in there with aircraft launching over head. Not to mention if they have to fire missiles they will not be able to launch aircraft or hear....

I like the stealthy looks of the ship With a few minor refinements it will be a fine design.

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Nice design planeman, ... unconventionall
Ok, new pics have poped up. I'm still not really happy with texturing and shading. I've slightly realigned the sponons with the VLS.