PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments

andyhugfan

Banned Idiot
Although it's nice to see pics of naval forces but I tend to sympathize with the pirates. For years have the somali waters been polluted and emptied by european and asian country's. I dont mind them hijacking a supertanker for a couple of millions.
 
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escobar

Brigadier
"AMAN-13" multi-national naval exercise

[video=youtube;xnI6PRyarZ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnI6PRyarZ0[/video]

[video=youtube;OIiztk64TME]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIiztk64TME[/video]
 

escobar

Brigadier
After his involvement in the naval exercise AMAN-13, the 14th taskforce continues its route to the Gulf of Aden...

[video=youtube;8og3f9HbXJI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8og3f9HbXJI[/video]
 

escobar

Brigadier
The 13th and 14th escort taskforces held an escort mission-handover ceremony in western waters of the Gulf of Aden on March 13, 2013

[video=youtube;PkmlwZZX1HI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkmlwZZX1HI[/video]
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
The 13th and 14th task forces handed over to each other and task force is on a training mission to the Pacific Ocean

13th task force was 568, 570 and 887

The 14th task force is 112 and 528

The Pacific force is made of 999, 170, 569 and 572

This means 9 major PLAN vessels are on overseas deployments as we speak which is a very high number

FFGs
528, 568, 569, 570 and 572

DDG
112 and 170

LPD
999

Replenishment tanker
887

7 of them coming from SSF, SSF must be feeling empty!
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Although it's nice to see pics of naval forces but I tend to sympathize with the pirates. For years have the somali waters been polluted and emptied by european and asian country's. I dont mind them hijacking a supertanker for a couple of millions.
Piracy of any type is the bain of free commerce and free and open transit on the high seas.

It should be eradicated whenever and wherever it is found.

I do mind a lawless group of people taking to the seas with the idea that they can threaten and take other people's life in order to try and make a "couple of million." It is the very opposite of that which makes a civil and peaceful society and the rule of civilized law.

That is why China, the whole of Eurpoe, the Russians, the United States, Australia and every other civilized nation who can are all working together (and isn't that amazing and a good thing!) to stop it.
 

MwRYum

Major
That is why China, the whole of Eurpoe, the Russians, the United States, Australia and every other civilized nation who can are all working together (and isn't that amazing and a good thing!) to stop it.

You do know they actually couldn't stop it, just deterring it and making it "difficult" for the Somali pirates to "do their business", right? The only permanent solution is either to fix up Somalia to a proper country where their people have easier jobs to choose then to join pirate gangs, or pound that Horn of Africa into the sea.

And neither option is feasible or anyone has the will to undertake, so like taking Aspirin for headache, anti-piracy expeditions is the second best option everyone is doing now.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
You do know they actually couldn't stop it, just deterring it and making it "difficult" for the Somali pirates to "do their business", right? The only permanent solution is either to fix up Somalia to a proper country where their people have easier jobs to choose then to join pirate gangs, or pound that Horn of Africa into the sea.

And neither option is feasible or anyone has the will to undertake, so like taking Aspirin for headache, anti-piracy expeditions is the second best option everyone is doing now.

Piracy was eradicated before without 'pounding' anything into the sea other than pirate ships.

Right now, if you are a pirate, the risks are surprisingly small. None of the Europeans or Americans or anyone else want to take captured pirates home to be tried, as they will probably just claim asylum and if anything, that might encourage more poor hopeless Somalis to become pirates.

If you are a pirate, all you have to do is toss your AK and RPGs overboard when confronted by a naval unit, most of the time, they will board you and let you go for a lack of evidence. On the off chance you are dumb enough to leave some evidence and get arrested, the navy guys will just palm you off on some African local authorities the next time they make a port stop. These local African countries wants you as much as anyone else, and will probably just boot you out of their prisons after a few weeks or months, and you can get right back into the game.

To eradicate piracy is pretty simply really. Simply adopt a take no prisoners policy on all confirmed pirates and watch as pirate numbers plummet. Just get some of the thousands, or tens of thousands of CIA predictors and reapers currently flying to do overwatch of pirate hot spots. When they see a boat with guys brandishing weapons onboard, send a hellfire their way and be done with it. It is pretty much exactly what the US has been doing for years in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as in Yeman, Sudan and other places more recently.

But of course, pirates are non-discriminating so no single country feels directly and specifically threatened, pirate attacks are also far removed from the lives of the vast majority of people, so there isn't much public appetite any to solve the problem. No one wants to do the dirty work and have all the world's bleeding hearts on the case. But in honesty, if the UN passed a resolution or did something else to make it worth the while for a nation to pay the financial and political costs of a piracy eradication programme, any of the top world military powers can do it.

But, as I said, since no one feels like this is their problem, no one wants to do the deed and risk getting slatted in the world press after spending a tidy sum getting rid of pirates or make pirates take things personally and bare a grudge against ships and crews from the country attacking them.
 

MwRYum

Major
To eradicate piracy is pretty simply really. Simply adopt a take no prisoners policy on all confirmed pirates and watch as pirate numbers plummet. Just get some of the thousands, or tens of thousands of CIA predictors and reapers currently flying to do overwatch of pirate hot spots. When they see a boat with guys brandishing weapons onboard, send a hellfire their way and be done with it. It is pretty much exactly what the US has been doing for years in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as in Yeman, Sudan and other places more recently.

But of course, pirates are non-discriminating so no single country feels directly and specifically threatened, pirate attacks are also far removed from the lives of the vast majority of people, so there isn't much public appetite any to solve the problem. No one wants to do the dirty work and have all the world's bleeding hearts on the case. But in honesty, if the UN passed a resolution or did something else to make it worth the while for a nation to pay the financial and political costs of a piracy eradication programme, any of the top world military powers can do it.

But, as I said, since no one feels like this is their problem, no one wants to do the deed and risk getting slatted in the world press after spending a tidy sum getting rid of pirates or make pirates take things personally and bare a grudge against ships and crews from the country attacking them.

It is, but as long as this is an UN-sanctioned affair, and until by some miracle they throw in an annex that'd allow shoot-to-kill (not in today's world, sorry), we just have to keep popping aspirin to this headache.

But anyway, the current situation is one that PLAN can fully exploit, a long range expedition that nobody can complain about China undertaking it.
 
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