PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments

Equation said:

I don't know how sailors in any navy can practice marksmanship when the ship bobbing up and down? How the heck can one accurately "zero in" on your weapon by making adjustments on the aim sights after firing a few rounds?

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The weapons should have been zeroed before the troops embark on ships. But since the shooter and the target are on the same ship, any bobbing up and down would affect both equally, so it should not affect accuracy much unless you are talking about monster waves which can shift the target a meaningful distance in the fraction of a second it takes the bullet to travel from the barrel to the target. But in those conditions, everyone would be too busy clinging on for dear life to even thing about shooting at each other.

The movement of the ship and the waves only really come into play when you are trying to shoot at a far away target on another ship. That is why they also use towed targets.

The main purpose of the kinds of target shooting as depicted in the pictures is two fold. Firstly, it is just basic marksmanship maintenance practice. Secondly, it is to get the soldiers used to shooting at targets with the sea as the background.

It's not much of an issue for boys who grey up near the sea, but for the lads from the inner provinces who are not used to it, the constantly moving waves in the background can be quite distracting, maybe even a little disorienting, especially if you mix that up with a little movement of the deck they are standing on.

plawolf said:

It's not much of an issue for boys who grey up near the sea, but for the lads from the inner provinces who are not used to it, the constantly moving waves in the background can be quite distracting, maybe even a little disorienting, especially if you mix that up with a little movement of the deck they are standing on.

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They can use boards to connect multiple ships together into a mega ship if they want to stabilize the ships

P.S. you'll have to know ancient Chinese history to know what I mean..

vesicles said:

They can use boards to connect multiple ships together into a mega ship if they want to stabilize the ships

P.S. you'll have to know ancient Chinese history to know what I mean..

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Ha, well it didn't go so well last time that was tried, so I would not advise doing it again now.

But stabilization is less of an issue, it is your peripheral vision that messes with your head when you are aiming at what looks to be a stationary target, only to have your peripheral vision notice the movement of the ship you are standing on in relation to the waves and horizon, and that can be distracting or even disorientating, especially if you are doing tactical CQC training with rapid switching between targets and/or shooting stances.

Geographer said:

Good points, especially about safety. Long hair is a major safety hazard when working around rotating equipment. There was a student at Yale University who died two years ago when her hair was sucked into a piece of lab equipment.

But female sailors in other navies have adapted to naval life without having to look like men. For example:

As another poster noted, Chinese female athletes have the same man-like short hair cuts even when there is no reason to. When I was watching Olympic table tennis, only the Chinese players' haircuts looked like men, not the women from South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, or Singapore. Do Chinese schools suppress feminine identity? Are they worried that if an athlete or sailor is good-looking, they will be a distraction among the crew? There is something unique in Chinese military and athletic culture regarding women's appearance that is very unusual.

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This is because Chinese girls are not growing up with Barbies and Disney princess that tell them what they should look like and they should behave to be properly "feminine". They can choose a variety of style without being called a lesbo or a freak, or having men questioning their femininity. However, with the advent of western media in China, this is changing, just look at the Post-90 city kids, they no different from those shallow girls from Gossip Girl. (though still a cut above Jersey Shore).

Although interesting, mainstream western media actually give the opposite view of what woman soldiers do in the Chinese military.

It is very good for China to take part in these excercises because it gives exposure to the rest of the world navy's to work together

Naval exercise Aman-13 concludes


From the Newspaper | Shazia Hasan


KARACHI, March 8: Naval exercise Aman-13 came to its conclusion with a spectacular daylong exercise in the North Arabian Sea, some 20 nautical miles from Karachi, on Friday.

The exercise attended by over 30 countries was carried out in two parts — the harbour phase spanned from March 4 to 6 and the sea phase from March 7 to 8.

The final day’s events were witnessed by observers who included navy personnel and the ambassadors and high commissioners of all the participant countries, who went aboard the huge Pakistan Navy supply ship PNS Nasr.

They witnessed a fly-past performed by air units of various participant countries comprising three types of helicopters and PC3 aircraft and PAF Mirages.

Replenishment at sea was demonstrated by two feeding ships, namely the PNS Shamsheer and PNS Saif, and the supply ship PNS Nasr itself.

The excises included an anti-piracy demonstration, surface firing on killer tomato where all the gunships taking part in Aman-13 aimed at a huge bloated target resembling a tomato and finally ‘man and cheer ship’, which saw 16 ships representing their respective countries pass by the PNS Nasr amid applause of appreciation by the audience.

The silence other than the hum of the ships engines would often be broken by the landing of PN helicopters bringing in foreign delegates.

The chief guest on the occasion was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Khalid Shameem Wynne.

He praised Pakistan Navy for hosting the multinational mega event as well as a simultaneous maritime conference in order to prepare the forces and discuss the many threats in the sea.

Later, speaking to the media, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral M. Asif Sandila, too, showed his satisfaction over the successful holding of the fourth episode of the exercise Aman-13, which the Pakistan Navy initiated in 2007 and had been holding after every two years.

Moving away from the topic of discussion, the naval chief, while replying to a question, said that he hoped that the Sir Creek dispute between Pakistan and India would be resolved through dialogue.

Also 2 Chinese FFG in service with PN called F22P did a dual replenishment by PNS Nasr also a Chinese tanker in service with the PN

'AMAN-13' international naval drill concludes

By Li Shen
China.org.cn, March 9, 2013.


On Friday, the "AMAN-13" multi-national naval exercise concluded on the North Arabian Sea, Pakistan.




Naval ships from 14 countries, including China, the United States, Britain and Pakistan, joined a five-day naval drill in the Arabian Sea from March 4, involving 24 ships, 25 helicopters, and special forces. [Li Shen/China.org.cn]



The last day of exercises included formation flying, refueling at sea, an anti-piracy demonstration and surface firing.

Starting at 11:40 Karachi Time (Beijing Time 2:40 p.m.), helicopters from Pakistan, China, Turkey and Australia, transport planes from Japan as well as battle planes from Pakistan conducted formation flying one by one.

After that, the Pakistan Navy comprehensive supply ship PNS NASR performed the refueling of two frigates at the same time. The PNS NASR was built at China's Dalian shipyard in 1987. Her name is the Arabic word for "help."

Subsequently, the special unit of Pakistan Navy conducted an anti-piracy demonstration. After a speedboat fired flares to notify the helicopter of the accurate location of a ship which had been hijacked by pirates, a helicopter and speedboat carrying special unit soldiers arrived soon afterwards.

They undertook an air landing, board the ship and soon took hold of the vessel after clashing with the pirates.

The last item of the exercise was surface firing. Two frigates from Pakistan and China's missile destroyer "Harbin" conducted the drill and successfully hit the floating targets in the designated area.

Finaly then, 18 ships from 13 countries passed by the PNS NASR, the primary ship of the naval drill, in queue to receive approval from General Khalid Shamin Wynne, the Pakistani chief of the Joint Chiefs Staff Committee of Pakistan, together with other naval officers and observers from the 36 countries that participated in this five-day-long international naval drill.

Initiated and organized by Pakistan, the "Aman" exercise has been held every other year since 2007. AMAN is the Urdu word for "peace."