PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

shen said:

my guess is the color smoke is used to study wake turbulence. kinda like in a wind tunnel.

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Well, it wouldn't really be the wake...because that is the turbulence in the water behind the ship. But I still believe your point (in all seriousness) is very well taken.

It could very well be an effort to model wind conditions behind the carrier in various given situations (ie. speed of the carrier, direction of the wind, speed of the wind, and the resulting air flow behind the carrier that incoming/landing aircraft would have to deal with.

usaf0314 said:

what is it doing??

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They are making sure there is no turbulence that can suck the aircraft down to the ship's stern. Another area of interest is around and behind the island, as the turbulence generated from the island cuts across the glide path. For those who don't know, air flow around an aircraft carrier is a huge subject of study.

Note the landing strip markings.

This was probably done last year, and definitely before the ship was commissioned. I wonder what other interesting pictures they took in shipyard trials that haven't been released yet.

Liaoning is out again from 23 Oct to 14 Nov

no_name said:

Liaoning is out again from 23 Oct to 14 Nov

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That's 3 weeks.. hopefully they'll do higher tempo operations than what we've seen so far.

You can't create a carrier culture overnight. It took decades to refine carrier operations for the US and UK. The Chinese will take there own time this will require growing pains and spurts. The Russians took decades to create the there carrier concept. Even though ironically at the end of world war 2 they were given the incomplete German carrier Graf Zeppelin. But instead of adopting it they scuttled her.

Chief Designer of ex-Varyag talks about Liaoning



1. According to public information, direct spending on Liaoning may not exceed USD 3.5 billion.
2. Chinese modified boilers of Varyag successful comparing to Indian carrier modified by Russian.
3. Shipborne aviation subsystems such as damage control, ammunition storage, and ammunition transportation are important technical points if China can learn something from her operations.
4. China has to build its own catapults, otherwise, no fixed wing shipborne AWACS aircraft can be operated on carriers.

If your post is missing..it is here.

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/world-armed-forces/aircraft-carriers-ii-235-3125.html#post251533

Since there seems to be nothing new in this section I was thinking a little question to those more knowable than I am. So, what is the most efficient procedure to launch whole two squadrons in minimal time? Is it using only those forward positions in cycle 1, 2, 1, 2, ad nauseam? Or is it cycling them 1, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2 and so on? Obviously there would be some interesting queue problems using that third slot.

ladioussupp said:

Chief Designer of ex-Varyag talks about Liaoning

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1. According to public information, direct spending on Liaoning may not exceed USD 3.5 billion.
2. Chinese modified boilers of Varyag successful comparing to Indian carrier modified by Russian.
3. Shipborne aviation subsystems such as damage control, ammunition storage, and ammunition transportation are important technical points if China can learn something from her operations.
4. China has to build its own catapults, otherwise, no fixed wing shipborne AWACS aircraft can be operated on carriers.

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The fourth point is by far the most important, in my opinion. I think that Chinese Aircraft Carriers ought convert to catapults, as this allows greater design flexibility and more surface area. Plus AWACS, EWAs & Cargos are equally important to the aircraft carrier, as the combat aircraft on it.