PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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Blitzo

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Newport News "Drydock 12" has a length of 662 meters and a width of 76 meters.

Yes... immediately after that I did clarify that there is the more northern drydock which is longer and rectangular with a similar width to the JN and DL docks, and the more southern drydock which is more form fitting.

In either case, it helps to illustrate that the JN drydock is definitely sufficient for construction of a supercarrier sized flattop.
 

kroko

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They say that the 002 is to start construction this spring at Changxing Jiangnan shipyard, where a new gantry of 1600t capacity, China's largest has recently been inaugurated.

The 001 carrier is still being built and now they will start building 002 ?? right...
 

delft

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The 001 carrier is still being built and now they will start building 002 ?? right...
Building is unlikely to be a problem and nor will be equipping the ships. What they will have considered very carefully is the training of the crews.
 

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The 001 carrier is still being built and now they will start building 002 ?? right...

001 = CV-16 Liaoning
001A = CV-17, the carrier at Dalian which is being constructed
002 = CV-18, the carrier which is expected to be built at Jiangnan...

As for construction... yes, the original idea (before suggestions of 002 possibly being delayed) was that 002 would start construction while 001A was still being constructed... however 002 beginning construction likely means fabrication, and it would probably be at least two years behind 001A.

We'll have to wait and see if they really are going with the original schedule or a delayed one.
 

Pmichael

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Looking at the fact that China doesn't have any experience with the developement, building and maintaining steam catapults, it doesn't really make sense to invest money, manpower and know-how into such a project and don't just plain move to EMAL, even if EMAL is the more complex solution.

Well, that how a bunch of engineers would handle it. But you don't know what happens when non engineers and even politicians are involved.
 

weig2000

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Looking at the fact that China doesn't have any experience with the developement, building and maintaining steam catapults, it doesn't really make sense to invest money, manpower and know-how into such a project and don't just plain move to EMAL, even if EMAL is the more complex solution.

Well, that how a bunch of engineers would handle it. But you don't know what happens when non engineers and even politicians are involved.

I wouldn't say EMALS is necessarily the more complex solution than the steam catapult solution. In fact, the opposite might well be true. The US has long history of constructing, operating and maintaining steam catapults, but China is new to both solutions. And there is not much overlap in technologies underlying either solutions.

At this point, it really comes to down to the relative maturity of the two solutions under developments in China. It has been believed that steam catapult is ready or close to ready. EMALS wasn't even on the radar screen until a few years ago when Rear Admiral Ma Weimin built a 1:1 prototype (shortly after 2008 I believe) through his own funding channel and has won all kinds of acclaims since then, including from the two successive presidents Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping. It appears that more progress has been made such that now EMALS has become a serious contender for 002 and/or beyond.

I don't think politics necessarily has played a role in delaying or accelerating EMALS' development or inclusion as candidate solution, as some seem to believe. Carrier program is a high-profile, high-risk program for China; the leadership could not afford to take too much risks. It was Ma and his team that have "forced" their way into the picture.
 
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