PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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JayBird

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Unbelievable is right... the entire report is BS. Even if Liaoning did have a fully operational airwing onboard, the idea that China would be willing to send its carrier on such a deployment is ridiculous... also ridiculous is the idea that we would not have heard about it travelling all the way to tartus.

Maybe is possible the 20th PLAN Escort Flotilla is making a port call at the Syrian port of tartus after visiting Finland as the last stop and on their way back as the map shown here posted by A.man few weeks ago?

That Escort Flotilla including DDG152, FFG 548 and a supply ship 886 which is pretty big that might looks like a carrier to some ignorant people at night?

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Maybe is possible the 20th PLAN Escort Flotilla is making a port call at the Syrian port of tartus after visiting Finland as the last stop and on their way back as the map shown here posted by A.man few weeks ago?

That Escort Flotilla including DDG152, FFG 548 and a supply ship 886 which is pretty big that might looks like a carrier to some ignorant people at night?

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I don't think so, they've only reached Helsinki in the last day or so, and I think they're still there.

And I just realized they're not going to be visiting NZ... T_T
 

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Unbelievable is right... the entire report is BS. Even if Liaoning did have a fully operational airwing onboard, the idea that China would be willing to send its carrier on such a deployment is ridiculous... also ridiculous is the idea that we would not have heard about it travelling all the way to tartus.


Yes and even more unbelievable is that such a BS is being spread in the net ... nfirst a comply faked report by Debka ... now by "the Truth" itself, so it must be true:

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And tomorrow not only WantChinaTimes but a few more ignorant news-magazines hype up that story !

Sad, very sad and indeed unbelievable.

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I dont know what to make of it. It appears that not even janes can say for sure at this point.

Looking at it, i see a opening in the hull where the "possible carrier" arrow is pointing. Is that normal in a carrier?

Take a look at kuznetzov under construction. How does the 2 hulls compare?

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Dannhill

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Fortruss.blogspot.hk on Sept 25 had the Chinese fleet moving to Syria.

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On Sep 19 they reported that 3000+ Uyghur insurgents had taken over a Syrian village and set up base there. Their source is Times of Israel.

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Those fellas need to stop smoking what ever it is they are smoking to have hallucinations about Chinese aircraft carriers....jeez..

I've been trying to confirm this story via a more reputable website. I did find a article in Pravda about the Chinese joining the fight against ISIS by sending a cruiser to the MED..the photo they posted is of USS Vincennes (CG-49) which is know for shooting down an Iranian airbus back in 1988. The ship was taken out of service in 2005.

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The story of CV-16 being in the MED sounds like pure conjecture to me. 100% Bovine poop.
 

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I dont know what to make of it. It appears that not even janes can say for sure at this point.

Looking at it, i see a opening in the hull where the "possible carrier" arrow is pointing. Is that normal in a carrier?

Take a look at kuznetzov under construction. How does the 2 hulls compare?

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I think you're being needlessly pedantic... the kuznetsov in the picture is obviously in a later stage of construction compared to the carrier at DL -- give it another few months and the DL carrier will likely resemble the Kuznetsov in your picture.

As for "not even janes can say for sure" -- no, again, what was said is "While a conclusive identification of the hull as an aircraft carrier cannot be made until work is observed on the upper decks and potential flight deck, the slow pace of assembly and outline suggests a military hull under construction"
In other words, we cannot as of yet positively ID it as a carrier, but many signs are pointing to it as such.

You're really on the wrong side of looking at things with this entire issue, you're focused on "is it possible this hull can be something else which isn't a carrier" rather than "is it possible for the hull to not be a carrier".
The former is a rather broad question, because depending on the stage of a carrier's construction, obviously it may well "look" like any other large ship type in its early construction. The second is a much more precise question, because we are looking for things to invalidate the hull's potential status as a carrier, which are much easier to identify even in early stages of construction, if it were there.
Of course, as of yet we have yet to identify anything that invalidates the hull's potential to be a carrier. Yes, that doesn't confirm the ship to be a carrier but we were never going to get it early on anyway.
 

Blackstone

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For whatever it's worth, a story linked to HK news media Ming Po said CV001A will launch on Mao's 122th Birthday, December 26, 2015. The picture shows a CATOBAR design. There are so many rumors, I'm not sure what to believe.

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on Dec. 26 to mark the 122th birthday of Mao Zedong, according to Hong Kong newspaper Ming Pao.

President Xi Jinping reportedly visited the Dalian Shipyard to inspect the progress of work on the carrier in August.

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of the hull of what has been called the Type 001A carrier taking form in the Dalian shipyard. The photographs suggest work on the ship was proceeding quickly, as the lines are now a lot clearer than they were in previous photographs that emerged in April and the ship appears to have adopted a relatively rare bow flare design. Assembly should have begun in August.
 

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For whatever it's worth, a story linked to HK news media Ming Po said CV001A will launch on Mao's 122th Birthday, December 26, 2015. The picture shows a CATOBAR design. There are so many rumors, I'm not sure what to believe.

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Best not to take the word of random news sites seriously. Especially those from HK, Taiwan or Japan.

There are rumours, then there are "rumours". Differentiating between the two is an annoying but necessary task
 

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Fortruss.blogspot.hk on Sept 25 had the Chinese fleet moving to Syria.

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On Sep 19 they reported that 3000+ Uyghur insurgents had taken over a Syrian village and set up base there. Their source is Times of Israel.

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I found the article in the blog that you referenced;

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Very interesting....thanks for posting. The ships pictured in the link are not Chinese . They are Russian.

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Bottom line is that CV-16 is not in Syria.
 
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