PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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Engineer

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Now, THAT is news.

Many of us have talked about the inherent dangers associated with carrier deck flight operations. Clearly, a many of us predicted, the PLAN has now experienced it themselves. In such operations, tragically, it was really only a matter of time.

The wording of this makes me wonder



Two test pilots died from the squadron who successfully conducted landings and take-offs fom the Liaoning.

Did they die at sea? Did they die while conducting take offs or landings? Were aircraft lost? Lots of questions now.
Look for Chinese sources first. As far as I remember, the Chinese article never mentioned about pilot deaths, just that two people sacrificed their lives. It is known that one was J-15's chief engineer. The other is unknown.
 

Quickie

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The news article also has this bit. Not sure whether they're the same person or not.

Liu Xiaoming, a late military instructor at PLA Information Engineering University was posthumously awarded a first-class merit citation.
 

JayBird

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Look for Chinese sources first. As far as I remember, the Chinese article never mentioned about pilot deaths, just that two people sacrificed their lives. It is known that one was J-15's chief engineer. The other is unknown.

The original Chinese article is kind confusing also, it could be test pilots or engineers contributed on the Liaoning project. I remembered the J-15's chief engineer died of a heart attack.

There was also an incident where two pilots were killed with the SU-27UBK last year. But don't know if that incident have anything to do with this news.
 

bd popeye

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Accidents with military aircraft do happen and unfortunately with these accidents sometimes a loss of life occurs.

As methodical as the Chinese proceed with this CV programme I hope they do not allow this accident to deter their progress in their progression in the PLAN CV programme.
 
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longmarch

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中央军委主席习近平日前签署命令,给1个单位、1名个人授予荣誉称号。

授予空军某试飞大队“英雄试飞大队”荣誉称号

命令指出,长期以来,该大队坚持以发展民族航空事业和建设强大空中力量为使命,教育引导试飞员把个人理想融入强军实践,官兵始终保持了旺盛斗志;积极探索理论、参与设计、试验飞行,圆满完成各项试验试飞任务,填补我国航空领域13项空白;自觉抵制诱惑、坦然面对生死,多次挑战装备和生理极限,有2名同志献出生命。特别是为圆满完成歼-15飞机在辽宁舰上成功实施阻拦着舰和滑跃起飞任务做出重大贡献。

The original source never said or hinted the two died testing J15. What it did say:
-This is to honour the long time contribution from this unit
-Two pilots from this unit died on their job
-This unit made great contribution to J-15 carriar program.

In fact, the word 圆满 indicate that the two deaths were not related to J15, at least not at sea. Otherwise it cannot be called 圆满。
 

bd popeye

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More toy airplanes on board! time for the real things to come out and play but it's still good to see her going out to sea again.

kwaigonegin and I know when you see those toys aboard.. that means a multitude of flight deck drills. Crash and salvage. Fire. And the always fun rig the barraciade...fun...fun...fun!

I can hear the air boss or mini boss now.. "We're gonna keep doing this until we get it right!"

I want to see the PLAN do this..

[video=youtube;3biUiritcTU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3biUiritcTU[/video]
 

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中央军委主席习近平日前签署命令,给1个单位、1名个人授予荣誉称号。

授予空军某试飞大队“英雄试飞大队”荣誉称号

命令指出,长期以来,该大队坚持以发展民族航空事业和建设强大空中力量为使命,教育引导试飞员把个人理想融入强军实践,官兵始终保持了旺盛斗志;积极探索理论、参与设计、试验飞行,圆满完成各项试验试飞任务,填补我国航空领域13项空白;自觉抵制诱惑、坦然面对生死,多次挑战装备和生理极限,有2名同志献出生命。特别是为圆满完成歼-15飞机在辽宁舰上成功实施阻拦着舰和滑跃起飞任务做出重大贡献。

The original source never said or hinted the two died testing J15. What it did say:
-This is to honour the long time contribution from this unit
-Two pilots from this unit died on their job
-This unit made great contribution to J-15 carriar program.

In fact, the word 圆满 indicate that the two deaths were not related to J15, at least not at sea. Otherwise it cannot be called 圆满。
Thanks for the detail and clarification.

I am sure we lose some in the translation. It would be interesting to know further details, but at least we are getting something more now.

I am copying your post to the J-15 thread as well.
 

Equation

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kwaigonegin and I know when you see those toys aboard.. that means a multitude of flight deck drills. Crash and salvage. Fire. And the always fun rig the barraciade...fun...fun...fun!

I can hear the air boss or mini boss now.. "We're gonna keep doing this until we get it right!"

I want to see the PLAN do this..

[video=youtube;3biUiritcTU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3biUiritcTU[/video]


I assume the guys with the baseball cap on deck are the instructors and Chief Petty Officers? How can he or anyone hear him say anything when they had their helmet and head seat on and he seems to be screaming without a headset with all that noise going on?:confused:
 
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