Thank you jack, we appreciate your insight, that is what makes this forum so outstanding, when we have posters who have "been there, and done that", its been an education and a pleasure hearing from you old "sea dogs". brat
PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)
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Thank you jack, we appreciate your insight, that is what makes this forum so outstanding, when we have posters who have "been there, and done that", its been an education and a pleasure hearing from you old "sea dogs". brat
Agreed 100%.
I have always felt that the following is the best video of a US Carrier (in this case the Kitty Hawk) transiting rough seas.
[video=youtube;P1VffVPML6M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1VffVPML6M[/video]
Now those are some very large swells.
Well, look at it this way, at least the deck is washed clean right? No more deck scrubbing.
Nope.. not with the USN, that flight decks get's scrubbed about every two weeks these days at sea..
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Well, look at it this way, at least the deck is washed clean right? No more deck scrubbing.
No, the corrosive sea water is even worst.
The heaviest sea I ever encountered was aboard the JFK crossing the Atlantic in late September or early October 1972 after participating in NATO exercise coupled with a 10 month MED cruise. I remember walking in the hangar and waves pounding against the hangar doors. I never got sea sick but plenty of shipmates did.
outstanding escobar, lots of business like and ship shape activities, though I did think the think the young Chines dude in the Yellow reminded me of the minions on "despicable me", one of my new favorite movies. and its more than obvious that President Xi commands respect, he may be tough, but he is obviously very pleased with the Liaoning, and the aircrew, nice for service people to have that kind of leadership... looking good here people. brat
The lack of a catapult is really a limitation for the Liaoning. I never seen a Flanker take off from her deck with more than 4 ordinance. Two small rockets on the side (PL-5?) and 2 PL-12 or 2 small bombs. For air to air missions the Flankers should take off with at least 6 to 8 AAM missile's and for anti shipping missions it should take off with at least 2 YJ-83 missile's and 2 AAM missile's for self protection. The YJ-83 load are heavier so i expect those planes to take off from the back position and with 6 to 8 AAM missile's they should be able to take off from the front. That we haven't seen it happen in the few seconds of videos it doesn't mean it didn't happen or that they can't. But it will be nice to have some confirmation that they can.
The Russian videos are no better as they usually show them take off with just 2 AAM missile's from the Admiral Kuznetsov. Once again based on that few seconds of video is hard to judge their real capabilities. I have seen a video with the MiG-29K take off with a quite a heavy load from the INS Vikramaditya.
The Russian videos are no better as they usually show them take off with just 2 AAM missile's from the Admiral Kuznetsov. Once again based on that few seconds of video is hard to judge their real capabilities. I have seen a video with the MiG-29K take off with a quite a heavy load from the INS Vikramaditya.
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According to pb19980515 on CJDBY:
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The J-15 can carry 9 tons of internal fuel with 5 tons of ordnance.
- Anti-Shipping: 5 x YJ-83K, 2 x AAM (PL-8?) (Approx. 3.7 tons load-out)
- Anti-Surface: 6 x 500 KG LGB or JDMA or KD88A, 2 x AAM (Approx. 3.5 tons load-out)
- Air-to-Air: 8 x PL12C, 4 x PL-10 (Approx. 3 tons load-out)
From the secondary launch position the J-15 can carry 7.5 tons of internal fuel, 6 x PL-12C, 4 x PL-10. This is the carrying ability from the 195M launch position.
These were the data gathered from flight testing.
As for the 9 ton fuel + 5 ton ordnance load-out, it only flew 2~3 times. The specifics of what it was carrying we won't talk about for now.
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This poster also said later that with the 9 ton fuel load-out, the J-15 remained flat at 60M above surface for 300M after take-off. He identifies himself as a member of the data-collection team that's on-board the Liaoning during some of the trials, including the recent SCS deployment.
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