PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

drowingfish

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Like others have said, Kinmen or other coastal islands currently under ROC control have close to no military value. All that does would be to spur a more firm western alliance against further military actions.

Pascadores, on the other hand, is probably the most strategic area to take. It would serve as the perfect springboard for many aspects of a full on invasion down the road. Just from a purely military and geopolitical perspecive, taking Kinmen and Matsu would be a liability, where as the Pascadores would be a significant coup, that renders further operations much easier (if enough infrastructures can be built there in the meantime) and more likely to succeed.
Correct, Penghus is 100% a must. if it can be taken in the opening few days, it will significantly change the calculation of the defenders as well as the US/Japan/Aus alliance. Rapid loss of critical terrain will either deter the US from intervening, or force them to commit without preparations, either way works to the PLA's advantage.

militarily, losing Penghu as AD and early warning node will also give the PLA aviation safe airspace in close proximity of Taiwan from which they can conduct surveillance and deliver air-launched ordinance. Moreover, Taiwan will be forced to reorient its defensive posture away from its flanks, allowing PLAN safe passage through the channels into the pacific.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
Check the latest results from the Palestine war. China would do well to thoroughly analyse the cause of how a tiny nation could in the end best a (relative) military giant. If we waive moral arguments and only look at force balance, this Palestine conflict is the CCW preview.

Some points:

Israel's fire support was nearly exclusively from A2A fighter jets carrying glide bombs, not artillery, drones and loitering bombers. Probably this led to scenarios where soldiers could not have on demand fire support, but had to wait for planes to take off (at which point the Palestinians would be in hiding). And the number of munitions dropped can't be too high if you don't have dedicated bombers and/or rocket artillery.

The use of conscripts: many had poor training and moral caliber, making occupation an unnecessary struggle. Not only that, but using them caused economic impact. In contrast, Russia using well paid volunteers instead has avoided a significant economic loss, through their training is not necessarily better than Israeli counterparts. China needs top tier training programs for career soldiers, while less important rear line tasks could conceivably be left to Russian style volunteers. And conscription is perhaps better off avoided altogether.

Israel allowed other nations around Palestine to support it and didn't commit signficant retaliation even against violent blockades being imposed. This put the leadership on a timer. If a second nation plays Ansarallah or Iran against Chinese products and shipping during a restart of the CCW, China must not only do a few symbolic raids or retaliate with covert actions only, but fully counterattack.

The entitlement of Israeli officials in trying to access their allies was a pure shot in the foot. They could have cast the conflict in a more positive light with soft propaganda, but insisted on ham fisted tactics like buying corrupt politicians into censoring the public. Imagine if Russia insisted to police average Chinese people for anti-Ukraine war sentiment and demand every last bit of it being scrubbed.

Finally, with minimal industry, Israel does not really have a way to replenish munitions quickly. Especially not IADS. That might be a contributor to why the war has to end soon. China can avoid this rather easily.

Imho the Israel war will be a significant event for China to analyse, but it is far from a prediction that the PLA will be insufficient to hold Taiwan, because China is not subject to the same types of pitfalls, despite the on paper power balance having some resemblance.

That's my take on the soon ending conflict and what it teaches China.

I 100% agreed. I can add that Palestine has been in "war and suffering" in more than 50 years, their quality of life is quite low, so their endurance would be much higher than Taiwanese which have much higher quality of life. It means that Taiwanese would surrender easily, also considering the opposite is exactly the same Hans Chinese too. I think if China widely say that all Taiwanese would be accepted as Chinese that would accelerate the "surrender"
 

lcloo

Captain
I 100% agreed. I can add that Palestine has been in "war and suffering" in more than 50 years, their quality of life is quite low, so their endurance would be much higher than Taiwanese which have much higher quality of life. It means that Taiwanese would surrender easily, also considering the opposite is exactly the same Hans Chinese too. I think if China widely say that all Taiwanese would be accepted as Chinese that would accelerate the "surrender"
All Taiwanese are considered as PRC citizens for decades already. Taiwanese enjoy the same rights as PRC citizens in work employment, running businesses, education etc.

And also an intepretation of ROC laws in 1993 also considered all PRC citizens as ROC citizens. This was revealed in a compesation case for death of PRC citizen in Taiwan in a Taiwanese court verdict . However, in May 2023 the Taiwan independent green camp controlled legislature later issued statement that they no longer considered PRC citizens as ROC citizens.

台湾居民在大陆享有经济、社会、文化、教育等方面的同等待遇,具有充分的合法性,源自于台湾居民作为中国公民的法律身份。 首先,《中华人民共和国宪法》在序言中明确「台湾是中华人民共和国神圣领土的一部分」,第三十三条规定:「凡具有中华人民共和国国籍的人都是中华人民共和国公民,中华人民共和国公民在法律面前一律平等。 国家尊重和保障人权。 任何公民享有宪法和法律规定的权利,同时必须履行宪法和法律规定的义务。 」而《中华人民共和国国籍法》则规定:「父母双方或一方为中国公民,本人出生在中国,具有中国国籍」,「父母国籍不明,或无国籍,定居在中国,本人出生在中国,具有中国国籍。
 
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antiterror13

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All Taiwanese are considered as PRC citizens for decades already. Taiwanese enjoy the same rights as PRC citizens in work employment, running businesses, education etc.

And also an intepretation of ROC laws in 1993 also considered all PRC citizens as ROC citizens. This was revealed in a compesation case for death of PRC citizen in Taiwan in a Taiwanese court verdict . However, in May 2023 the Taiwan independent green camp controlled legislature later issued statement that they no longer considered PRC citizens as ROC citizens.

台湾居民在大陆享有经济、社会、文化、教育等方面的同等待遇,具有充分的合法性,源自于台湾居民作为中国公民的法律身份。 首先,《中华人民共和国宪法》在序言中明确「台湾是中华人民共和国神圣领土的一部分」,第三十三条规定:「凡具有中华人民共和国国籍的人都是中华人民共和国公民,中华人民共和国公民在法律面前一律平等。 国家尊重和保障人权。 任何公民享有宪法和法律规定的权利,同时必须履行宪法和法律规定的义务。 」而《中华人民共和国国籍法》则规定:「父母双方或一方为中国公民,本人出生在中国,具有中国国籍」,「父母国籍不明,或无国籍,定居在中国,本人出生在中国,具有中国国籍。

wowww, Thanks, didn't know that. Thats why so many Taiwanese in Mainland
 

GulfLander

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All Taiwanese are considered as PRC citizens for decades already. Taiwanese enjoy the same rights as PRC citizens in work employment, running businesses, education etc.

And also an intepretation of ROC laws in 1993 also considered all PRC citizens as ROC citizens. This was revealed in a compesation case for death of PRC citizen in Taiwan in a Taiwanese court verdict . However, in May 2023 the Taiwan independent green camp controlled legislature later issued statement that they no longer considered PRC citizens as ROC citizens.

台湾居民在大陆享有经济、社会、文化、教育等方面的同等待遇,具有充分的合法性,源自于台湾居民作为中国公民的法律身份。 首先,《中华人民共和国宪法》在序言中明确「台湾是中华人民共和国神圣领土的一部分」,第三十三条规定:「凡具有中华人民共和国国籍的人都是中华人民共和国公民,中华人民共和国公民在法律面前一律平等。 国家尊重和保障人权。 任何公民享有宪法和法律规定的权利,同时必须履行宪法和法律规定的义务。 」而《中华人民共和国国籍法》则规定:「父母双方或一方为中国公民,本人出生在中国,具有中国国籍」,「父母国籍不明,或无国籍,定居在中国,本人出生在中国,具有中国国籍。
Isnt it in like ROC constitution or something?
 

W20

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A Civilized state that recognizes the population/plebs as Citizens like the Chinese Civilized state ...

is the exact opposite of the West Barbarism

The Western-Biblical-God who forges the mental software of a Viking horde that worships itself
 

W20

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In the historic encounter (ca. 2025-2050) between the Chinese Commercial Civilization and the Western Barbarians, it may be interesting to recall some cultural details

The Franks in Gaul (later known as "France") never thought that they were of the same nation as the plebs over which they ruled.

And the same was true of the Goths and the Visigoths

The Biblical-Mind-Software was simply perfect

because the Biblical-Mind-Software precisely and exactly teaches that a ruling class, a "HerrenVolk" and a oligarchy are part of one people, and the despicable plebs, "the people of the land", are different people who are hardly distinguishable from cattle
 

00CuriousObserver

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An interesting post by Xi Yazhou
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所谓需求牵引设计,最近一段时间中国的机器狗都在努力的提高速度和灵活性,而不是增加载重量和安装更复杂的传感器设备……

同样,小型自动地面履带式\轮式车辆也是在一定载荷重量要求的前提下,尽可能在各种不同的地面上要走得快。

……为什么要走的快呢?这是什么样的需求在牵引呢?真是神秘啊[歪嘴]

The so-called "demand-driven design", in recent times, Chinese robotic dogs have been striving to improve their speed and agility, rather than increasing payload capacity or adding more complex sensor equipment...

Similarly, small autonomous ground-based tracked or wheeled vehicles aim to move as quickly as possible across various terrains, given certain payload weight requirements.

...Why do they need to move so fast? What kind of demand is driving this? It's truly a mystery. [smirk]

奔着自爆去的,自爆炸弹并不重,所以荷载需求不高,但对于速度和灵活性要求比较高,大概率是参考了自爆无人机在俄乌战场上的实用性

It's designed for self-detonation, so the explosive payload isn't heavy, meaning the load capacity requirements are not high. However, there are relatively high demands for speed and agility, likely inspired by the practicality of self-destruct drones on the Russia-Ukraine battlefield.
 

lcloo

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A Unitree Go2 robot dog sold for as low as $2,399 on Amazon. A mass produced suicide robot dog probably will cost less. They might be nightmare to enemy, especially if they charge like wolf pack or sneak in at dark night, with explosive equivalent to 155mm artillery shells.
 

solarz

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A Unitree Go2 robot dog sold for as low as $2,399 on Amazon. A mass produced suicide robot dog probably will cost less. They might be nightmare to enemy, especially if they charge like wolf pack or sneak in at dark night, with explosive equivalent to 155mm artillery shells.

How would the robot dogs differentiate between soldiers and civilians? Or identify decoys? What can they do that an actual artillery piece can't? Perhaps trench clearing? But then wouldn't a flying drone be more effective?
 
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