PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Duke Xiao of Qin

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But can Taiwan proactively attack? No. Their ground based long range missiles attempting to strike targets in mainland China must overfly not just the strait but also a large chunk of Chinese territory that will have forward observers and combat air patrols. The only way to avoid it is to strike coastal targets - but there aren't many stationary coastal targets of military importance. Their only option would be terror bombing Xiamen or Fuzhou which would be military ineffective and only harden resolve against them.

This is the best thing ever.

China can then attack and destroy taiwan's cities at well !
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Thank you very much for your explanations, I see the difference between the conflicts now.

Maybe can I ask why NATO ISR will not be applicable in Taiwan?
Cant AEW planes just fly in the ocean helped by tankers as they are doing currently in Poland and Romania?

Or it is assumed than in case of conflict China would shot them?
No article 5 in the ocean. Russia can't declare Romanian airspace to be a war zone, but China's EEZ alone extends past Taiwan.

China can declare a danger zone for foreign planes in international waters that aren't in anyone's EEZ or territorial waters, as a buffer surrounding Taiwan. This is perfectly legal.

Anyone that flies inside takes the risk of being shot down by a "misfired" missile. Accidents happen.
 

zbb

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No article 5 in the ocean. Russia can't declare Romanian airspace to be a war zone, but China's EEZ alone extends past Taiwan.

China can declare a danger zone for foreign planes in international waters that aren't in anyone's EEZ or territorial waters, as a buffer surrounding Taiwan. This is perfectly legal.

Anyone that flies inside takes the risk of being shot down by a "misfired" missile. Accidents happen.
Would the Japanese island of Yonaguni be a problem? Yonaguni is only ~120km from Yilan and ~160km from Taipei, so AEW planes circling above Yonaguni will have radar coverage of most/all of Taiwan.
 

zhangjim

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Would the Japanese island of Yonaguni be a problem? Yonaguni is only ~120km from Yilan and ~160km from Taipei, so AEW planes circling above Yonaguni will have radar coverage of most/all of Taiwan.
It's hard to say. If the United States requests Japan to provide a base, Japan will not refuse.
According to the previous assumption of the Japanese hawks, they would deceive themselves and declare that they had "not" intervened in the war. But when these bases are really attacked, they can assist the United States in self-defense.
Of course, this is only the imagination of unofficial or semi official individuals.
 

Jono

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Thank you very much for your explanations, I see the difference between the conflicts now.

Maybe can I ask why NATO ISR will not be applicable in Taiwan?
Cant AEW planes just fly in the ocean helped by tankers as they are doing currently in Poland and Romania?

Or it is assumed than in case of conflict China would shot them?
the way I understand it is that Beijing sees the Taiwan reunification issue NOT as a Beijing-Taipei contention, but as a Beijing-Washington contest of will and might. The defense capabilities of Taiwan nowadays are inadequate to meet the challenges and withstand the onslaught across the strait as many members have rightly pointed out. Public opinion in Taiwan recognizes this fact, therefore die-hard separatists there pin their only hope on US whole-hearted intervention should AR occur. However, given the US's dismal performance in the Russia-Ukraine war, the Israel-Hamas fight, and the ragtag Houthis ability to blockade the Red Sea passageway, more and more Taiwanese people are skeptical about US resolve to face a peer challenge in the form of PLA. Accordingly, a recent poll in Taiwan shows that only 38% of respondents strongly believe that the US would come to Taiwan's aid should a war break out.
The above poll notwithstanding, Beijing still needs to plan carefully and is building up its capabilities on the premises of a definite joint
American / Japanese intervention in the AR process. In the grand scheme of strategy, the Taiwanese AR war, once broken out, can be considered a Chinese-determined effort to push the Americans out of the Western Pacific for good. Hence, all gloves are off, and all American forces will be attacked and destroyed, including airforce and naval bases in Japan.
this is a very scary scenario, and the fight may escalate to a nuclear exchange if American flattops are sunk by DF missiles.
I just wish and pray that what plawolf predicts will happen: "That is why the most likely scenario in the event of a US no-show after armed reunification starts is a military coup within Taiwan followed swiftly by unconditional surrender."
 

Feima

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The two survivors claim the Taiwanese coast guard rammed their ship which flipped it over. I think at this point if someone doesn't resign or get fired, this event won't blow over.

Looks like Chinese coast guard have normalized crossing over Kinmen's supposed borders.

At first TW side claimed the fishing boat was fleeing in zig zag pattern, which caused it to capsize. This led people to speculate that TWCG boat was shooting at the fishing boat, as otherwise fleeing boat would have been speeding off in a straight line.

After dithering for a few days, TWCG now say they don't have a video record of what happened, because <some non-convincing reasons>.

TW authorities wanted to cremate the two dead, but their families refused. Not sure what current situation is. Obviously TW side can't hold on to the bodies indefinitely.
 

Temstar

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I checked the paths today and oof:
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3 days into the operation and they're just about beaching their ships on Kinmen now.

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8029 got within 0.57nm of land and stayed within Kinmen "territorial water" for 65 minutes ignoring radio call from ROCCGA asking them to leave. There's much weeping and gnashing of teeth over the other side of the strait:

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Note on this occasion 8029 is a China Marine Surveillance ship and not China Coast Guard.

After China Marine Surveillance had their fun yesterday today is China Fishery Law Enforcement's turn:
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China Maritime Safety Administration is up tomorrow I'm guessing :)
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This is because 郭正亮 was talking on TV last night about how no one in Taiwan dared to talk about the marine surveillance ship getting within Kinmen's zone, he only knew about it because he too was following Shenyi on Weibo. DPP still trying to play this one down.
 
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