PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency
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I honestly have no idea what 92m long is relative to other Chinese coast guard ships.
The 92m long came from this news
China Coast Guard 14608
Approximately 1500 tons?
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I checked the paths today and oof:
3 days into the operation and they're just about beaching their ships on Kinmen now.
8029 got within 0.57nm of land and stayed within Kinmen "territorial water" for 65 minutes ignoring radio call from ROCCGA asking them to leave. There's much weeping and gnashing of teeth over the other side of the strait:
Note on this occasion 8029 is a China Marine Surveillance ship and not China Coast Guard.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Please don’t get angry at others for pointing out your very obvious lack of knowledge and understanding of the subject at hand.
What you are describing is very entry-level understanding of anti-air vs SEAD/DEAD tactics based on fundamentally flawed assumptions and ideas.
Go to your closet airport and see at what distance you can positively identify commercial airliners on low level landing approaches and you will realise just how ridiculous your idea of relying on visual searching for modern air defence is. The opfor will need to be dropping iron bombs directly on your SAM site for visual searching to have any chance. Even cheap glider bombs would render your visual searching strategy irrelevant as good luck trying to spot even a bomber sized target 20km away at cruising altitude using your mk1 eyeball from the ground.
And unlike the Russians, the Chinese have been investing heavily in its support assets and toys. Any manned strike package going over Taiwan island itself will have dedicated Wild Weasel escorts.
That means even if my some minor miracle you did visually spot a strike package coming in, as soon as your radar lights up, it’s going to be the focus of multiple dedicated jammers with anti-radiation missiles incoming on your position very shortly afterwards.
That’s not to say it’s impossible to get a kill, just incredibly unlikely and expensive to do so. Since unlike the Russians, the Chinese will have true air dominance over Taiwan. Meaning any pot shots taken will attract massive and near immediate strike responses, so you are almost certainly going to loose the radar and launcher(s) that just engaged.
But the more likely scenario is that the PLA won’t even really heed to send in manned aircraft to over fly Taiwan island since they can easily strike at any point on the island from standoff ranges. Instead it’s massed drones that will be deployed to do the bulk of the search and strike missions, with manned aircraft acting as rapid response to deal with any unexpected events.
So in your example, the only things you can realistically spot would be drones, and if you light up to engage them, you can expect to be engaged yourself by manned and unmanned platforms long before you can pack up and scoot. If you don’t engage the enemy drones overhead, it’s very likely they will spot your hidden battery and shoot missiles at you anyways.
In a Taiwan scenario, the outcome will never be in doubt, the only question is how much it will cost the PLA.
I was wrong previously
The family of the deceased refuse to have the bodies cremated.
Taiwan claim there was "physical contact" between the boats but there is no footage.
Looks like this tragedy isn't dying down anytime soon.
Now that’s the sort of Taiwan Independence I can get behind.
I don't pretend to be expert and I am happy to accept critic to my comments. But the expression we don't live in time of WWII was paternalistic.
On the other hand, the situation I have described has really happened in the Ukranian war. Air defenses operating in passive mode to remain hidden until a plane shows up.
As crazy as it may look there were actual reports of how in the cloudy days russians aircraft could be more active due to Ukranians unable to spot them
And specially before the introduction of the glide bombs by Russia, its planes needed to fly low to drop bombs with some precision so it was even easier to spot them.
However, I totally accept the point that Taiwan size is much smaller than Ukraine, and it is an island. So for chinese planes will be much easier.
It was simply a comment of the kind of strategy that taiwanese will employ. Their objective will not be to win, or even maximize survival but to inflict as much damage to chinese air force and army
I also myself want to apologise, that please don’t be paternalistic was aggressive.
Anyway level of comments here is very high, I am happy to interact and read you!!
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You just gotta give it to at least some of them for trying to cure their *ahem* on their own:
B1tch, we already done that N years ago with the PLA:
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The 9th wasn’t too impressed with their daddy when they did the 6 vs 1 gangbang thing.
