The colored revolution happened years ago. It is the DPP. A no flight zone would be challenged. Reunification is a all in or nothing affair.
PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency
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If China is fully prepared for Pacific War 2.0 then it would be capable of advancing all the way to San Francisco if absolutely necessary, hence the 95% overmatch requirement mentioned.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Getting way OT. Going all the way to SF basically means destruction of USPACFLT, including all the bases like Guam, Pearl Harbor etc.. and likely most if not all of SK forces, JMSDF etc...
Well, he said that IF China is fully prepared for Pacific War 2.0. That's the context of his post. Of course it is a huge order to achieve that. I can't imagine what happen if the Pacific War 2.0 is ever happen. The destruction that it caused will be catastrophic to our current world order. Because the disturbance of the trade route that the war cause can break a lot of countries economy in the world. It will definitely a direct route to World War 3. Because countries who got economically disturbed will have no choice but to direct their people's rage to other country.
When the war end, we will lucky if the world only regressed to the state of year 1945AD.
I fully expect WW3 to break out this century regardless of the actual impetus and starting point, simply because the underlying issues at play will not be allowed to be resolved any other way (especially given the level of global environmental destruction and US induced ideological polarization), and the increasingly dysfunctional US would rather see the whole world burn than to lose their power and privilege. As such, China, Russia, Iran et al need to be fully prepared for that eventuality, as one only needs to remember the pre-WW1 period to see the frequency of flashpoints occurring prior to the start of that conflict.
solarz
Brigadier
As Sun Zi said, the inferior general seeks victory after going to war. The superior general goes to war after ensuring victory.
The result of a war over Taiwan, if it happens, will be determined before the first shot is fired.
Asahi poll: 56% want only SDF rear support to U.S. in event of Taiwan crisis
By TAIZO TERAMOTO/ Staff Writer
May 1, 2023 at 17:14 JST
A Maritime Self-Defense Force supply vessel, left, refuels a U.S. Navy vessel during a training exercise in waters near Okinawa Prefecture in 2021. (From the Defense Ministry website)
Eighty percent of voters said they are worried that Japan would be caught up in the armed conflict if the United States and China clashed over Taiwan, according to an Asahi Shimbun survey.
A majority of respondents said the Self-Defense Forces should limit its role to rearguard support to the U.S. military in the event of an attempted Chinese invasion of Taiwan.
Survey questions were sent by mail to 3,000 randomly selected voters nationwide on Feb. 28. Valid responses were received from 1,967, or 66 percent.
Respondents were asked to choose from four varying degrees of concern that Japan would be dragged into a U.S.-China military confrontation over Taiwan.
Twenty-eight percent said they are concerned “greatly” and 52 percent said “to some degree.”
In contrast, 16 percent of respondents said they are “not concerned much” and only 2 percent said they are “not concerned at all.”
Thirty-five percent of respondents in the Kyushu region said they are concerned greatly, the largest percentage by region.
The southwestern region includes Okinawa Prefecture, which is close to Taiwan and home to a large majority of U.S. military installations in Japan.
Voters were asked to select from three choices about the SDF’s response to a possible U.S.-China military confrontation.
Fifty-six percent said the SDF’s role should be limited to rearguard support to the U.S. military.
Twenty-seven percent said the SDF should not work with the U.S. military, and 11 percent said the SDF should use force with the U.S. military.
By gender, 33 percent of female respondents said the SDF should not work with the U.S. military, exceeding the 21 percent of male respondents.
Voters were also asked which of the two approaches they think Japan should prioritize for its national security: deepening the relationship with China through diplomacy and the economy or strengthening defense capabilities.
Seventy percent selected “deepening the relationship with China,” far more than the 26 percent who chose “strengthening defense capabilities.”
By gender, 75 percent of female respondents chose “deepening the relationship with China,” exceeding the 64 percent of male respondents.
This poll, along with many others, is irrelevant
Asahi poll: 56% want only SDF rear support to U.S. in event of Taiwan crisis
By TAIZO TERAMOTO/ Staff Writer
May 1, 2023 at 17:14 JST
A Maritime Self-Defense Force supply vessel, left, refuels a U.S. Navy vessel during a training exercise in waters near Okinawa Prefecture in 2021. (From the Defense Ministry website)
Eighty percent of voters said they are worried that Japan would be caught up in the armed conflict if the United States and China clashed over Taiwan, according to an Asahi Shimbun survey.
A majority of respondents said the Self-Defense Forces should limit its role to rearguard support to the U.S. military in the event of an attempted Chinese invasion of Taiwan.
Survey questions were sent by mail to 3,000 randomly selected voters nationwide on Feb. 28. Valid responses were received from 1,967, or 66 percent.
Respondents were asked to choose from four varying degrees of concern that Japan would be dragged into a U.S.-China military confrontation over Taiwan.
Twenty-eight percent said they are concerned “greatly” and 52 percent said “to some degree.”
In contrast, 16 percent of respondents said they are “not concerned much” and only 2 percent said they are “not concerned at all.”
Thirty-five percent of respondents in the Kyushu region said they are concerned greatly, the largest percentage by region.
The southwestern region includes Okinawa Prefecture, which is close to Taiwan and home to a large majority of U.S. military installations in Japan.
Voters were asked to select from three choices about the SDF’s response to a possible U.S.-China military confrontation.
Fifty-six percent said the SDF’s role should be limited to rearguard support to the U.S. military.
Twenty-seven percent said the SDF should not work with the U.S. military, and 11 percent said the SDF should use force with the U.S. military.
By gender, 33 percent of female respondents said the SDF should not work with the U.S. military, exceeding the 21 percent of male respondents.
Voters were also asked which of the two approaches they think Japan should prioritize for its national security: deepening the relationship with China through diplomacy and the economy or strengthening defense capabilities.
Seventy percent selected “deepening the relationship with China,” far more than the 26 percent who chose “strengthening defense capabilities.”
By gender, 75 percent of female respondents chose “deepening the relationship with China,” exceeding the 64 percent of male respondents.
This is a bit out of topic, but why we stuck with Sun Tzu? There were a lot of Chinese great generals who surpass Sun Tzu in term of military achievement. Like (in Sun Tzu era) Wang Jian, Bai Qi, Li Mu, etc. There were also a lot of military genius like Zhuge Liang, Cao Cao, Han Xin, Yue Fei, etc. Don't they have their military manual? I'm sure that a book that written by Han Xin would be better than Sun Tzu.
solarz
Brigadier
First of all, Zhuge Liang was not a military commander. While Cao Cao did have experience directly commanding armies, just like Liu Bei, he was more adept at the politics of commanding generals.
That said, 孙子兵法 is the foundation of all military learning in ancient China, and even today. It is widespread because it is written in an accessible and succinct format, yet is deep enough to take a lifetime to truly understand every nuance. Because it is foundational knowledge, it is also applicable to domains other than warfare.
While there certainly have been other books on warfare, none have received the widespread attention that 孙子兵法 has received.