PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

birdlikefood

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This is a bit out of topic, but why we stuck with Sun Tzu? There were a lot of Chinese great generals who surpass Sun Tzu in term of military achievement. Like (in Sun Tzu era) Wang Jian, Bai Qi, Li Mu, etc. There were also a lot of military genius like Zhuge Liang, Cao Cao, Han Xin, Yue Fei, etc. Don't they have their military manual? I'm sure that a book that written by Han Xin would be better than Sun Tzu.
In the words of the Chinese, it is the difference between "道" and "术". If it refers to war alone, it is the difference between "strategy" and "tactics".
 

tankphobia

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Just a random thought, but China's had decades to prepare for an AR scenario, any possibility they've been secretly tunneling under the strait 地道战-style so they can move ground forces onto the island without needing amphibious assault?
The bandwidth of troops are severely limited by tunnel width also, once discovered Taiwan can collapse the entrance using artillery and it will basically undo decades of work and tens of billions in investment. If you have spend that money on procurement you probably could've afforded another carrier strike group or two.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Are you so sure Taiwan is the ONLY country that China has to fight in this case? If so then yes your assessment would be agreeable.
who has the capability to bomb even a small fraction of Chinese civilians without losing most of their air force?

who has the capability to invade China with ground troops without losing a few million in even the best case scenario?
 

Biscuits

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Nobody really knows what the military brass or thr political leaders truly think. Winning or losing a war is almost impossible to predict because it has countless variables. Most of which is out of one's control. A lot of it also has to do with 'luck.'
China's military is also largely untested in modern warfare.
And will the civilian population able to stomach the potential heavy loses?
Majority of the men is the only child in their family.
You perfectly illustratate my point of how many if not most Americans, especially American nationalists, learned nothing from Ukraine.

"China will surrender in 3 days if US soldiers just roll into Taipei". "Chinese military is untested and there won't be any defenders when we move in".

Seems like a good recipe to wipe out invader scum en masse, I hope more US leaders take this position.
 

duskseeker

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Even more of the Taiwanese are the only child. It also won't be China being bombed with incendiaries and being starved of energy, food, fresh water and medicine. Air/naval attacks don't involve many on the attacker side being killed.

Whose stronger, a boxer that thinks they're strong for beating up untrained kids at the gym while not caring about underlying heart disease/diabetes or a boxer that trains and conditions as if he was going to the Olympics but hasn't fought in a while?
As a former MMA fighter, I tell you the boxer with a fight record and experience will win, Not really a good analogy for war.
 

Biscuits

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In this scenario, both sides more or less have 0 experience. Neither US nor China fought an equal power war since Korea.

Whoever gets cocky would have a signficant disadvantage. Service record and experience wise, both sides can only rely on simulations and training.

The significant tyranny of distance absolutely also doesn't help US, because not only are they untested, but they'll also need to overcome bottlenecked logistics, unfamiliar territory and attacking while having local firepower disadvantage.

If I gave the chances (to acquire major territory) of Russia's Donbass operation as a 7/10, I would give US' Taiwan operation a 1/10. Sure, one can say it is biased because I don't support American expansionism, but I'm evaluating realistically based on the fact that Ukraine is a lot smaller than Russia (in every major metric) whereas US is smaller than China in most metrics except starting military size. The geography also favors China a lot more.
 

birdlikefood

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As a former MMA fighter, I tell you the boxer with a fight record and experience will win, Not really a good analogy for war.
National strength cannot be anthropomorphic, and your experience has no reference value, brother.

If the country has to be anthropomorphic, then as someone who has experience caring for a patient suffering from chronic diseases, I think the future of the United States is also very bad.
 
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