PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Temstar

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Imagine instead the roles are reversed, and it's Xi who comes out every second day to say something evocative geopolitically on the world stage, then a day later MFA comes out to wipe his ass and roll it back. Now that's what I would call expanding political capital.

Did you know that China wanted the recent hour long meeting in Singapore to be broadcasted live, while it was US that insisted it not? Who do you think was speaking from a position of strength that time?

Look at what was actually said at the meeting. China said the diplomatic equivalent of "fuck around and find out" while Austin was saying more hotlines are needed between the US and China to manage risks.
 
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davidau

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Imagine instead the roles are reversed, and it's Xi who comes out every second day to say something evocative geopolitically on the world stage, then a day later MFA comes out to wipe his ass and roll it back. Now that's what I would call expanding political capital.

Did you know that China wanted the recent hour long meeting in Singapore to be broadcasted live, while it was US that insisted it not? Who do you think was speaking from a position of strength that time?

Look at what was actually said at the meeting. China said the diplomatic equivalent of "fuck around and find out" while Austin was saying more hotlines are needed between the US and China to manage risks.
I doubt very mcuh if Austin could undertand the subtlety of the Chinese language!
 

Pepper

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Who cares what you think or say. In that pathetic person's opinion China might as well surrender, call it quits and stop pretending it has any sliver of chance against the God's of western countries lead by the omnipotent U.S.

This dude sounds like a surrender Chinese monkey if he's at all Chinese which makes even worse. It honestly makes my blood boil reading his comment because it reads like groveling. Pretty pathetic.
Yea, we just saw how the West was unable to do anything against Russia. They are even dependent on Russia for uranium to keep their nuclear plants running!

Anyone who has delusions of Western omnipotence at this point is honestly no better than an NPC, just watching the Biden regime's MSM propaganda daily.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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I hate to reveal my personal information to others, but as a Henan native, this whole thing is not funny at all!The State Department clearly prohibits the use of health identification codes for other purposes, but apparently local governments will do anything to cover up the scandal.
Disease prevention is important, but it is not a legal means of restricting the movement of victims.
Don't interpret a lame tactic due to financial constraints as a brilliant move.This matter has nothing to do with disease control.

It's a group of tens of thousands of victims, and you can't identify them all as rebels

Strong ability does not mean absolute correctness.You have to understand that the ruling party is made up of every specific person,it's great to be able to form a consensus on something big, but it's impossible to put an end to selfish actions.
There is no such thing as an omnipotent Leviathan,even the CPC, an efficient enough organization, is still just a large, sluggish, bloated group, and you shouldn't underestimate the difficulty of governing a vastly populated China.
Someone has given such a wonderful metaphor. It is like a vehicle without tires and moving at high speed with hubs. It is very fast, but sparks are splashing everywhere.
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I'm don't like discussing such non-military related issues,but reality can always create something that makes your blood pressure rise.
Military strategy will inevitably receive domestic economic.

Abandoning strict disease control is tantamount to suicide,but testing costs money just as much.Even though China is now the best economic environment in the world at the moment,workers still have to endure a long ordeal,the loan and debt crisis is exploding.We used to think the debt crisis was far away, but this year has really been a very bad year.

But the Western proposal is even more insidious and useless.

Cohesion is a valuable asset,no one can be on high alert all the time.Over time, mismanagement was revealed.Unfortunately, some idiots are squandering the trust of the people.

The reason why some people advocate taking decisive action against Taiwan is that we will soon be overwhelmed by ourselves if we delay any longer.

China will not collapse in an instant as the alarmist prophets claim,But it is still a society that needs to be carefully maintained.No one can imagine the result of a mass outbreak of such bad events.
This makes the resolution of the Taiwan issue time-critical, and once the independents take advantage of the "healing" moment, we are forced to face a bad situation where we cannot take immediate action, and the Americans will only increase our pressure further: for example, by being the first to recognize and openly station troops
So, what you are saying is that - If China does not reunify Taiwan soon enough, China would collapse from within? Is that what you mean?

Also, I noticed that you are using a translator machine.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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I hate to reveal my personal information to others, but as a Henan native, this whole thing is not funny at all!The State Department clearly prohibits the use of health identification codes for other purposes, but apparently local governments will do anything to cover up the scandal.
Disease prevention is important, but it is not a legal means of restricting the movement of victims.
Don't interpret a lame tactic due to financial constraints as a brilliant move.This matter has nothing to do with disease control.

It's a group of tens of thousands of victims, and you can't identify them all as rebels

Strong ability does not mean absolute correctness.You have to understand that the ruling party is made up of every specific person,it's great to be able to form a consensus on something big, but it's impossible to put an end to selfish actions.
There is no such thing as an omnipotent Leviathan,even the CPC, an efficient enough organization, is still just a large, sluggish, bloated group, and you shouldn't underestimate the difficulty of governing a vastly populated China.
Someone has given such a wonderful metaphor. It is like a vehicle without tires and moving at high speed with hubs. It is very fast, but sparks are splashing everywhere.
——————————————————
I'm don't like discussing such non-military related issues,but reality can always create something that makes your blood pressure rise.
Military strategy will inevitably receive domestic economic.

Abandoning strict disease control is tantamount to suicide,but testing costs money just as much.Even though China is now the best economic environment in the world at the moment,workers still have to endure a long ordeal,the loan and debt crisis is exploding.We used to think the debt crisis was far away, but this year has really been a very bad year.

But the Western proposal is even more insidious and useless.

Cohesion is a valuable asset,no one can be on high alert all the time.Over time, mismanagement was revealed.Unfortunately, some idiots are squandering the trust of the people.

The reason why some people advocate taking decisive action against Taiwan is that we will soon be overwhelmed by ourselves if we delay any longer.

China will not collapse in an instant as the alarmist prophets claim,But it is still a society that needs to be carefully maintained.No one can imagine the result of a mass outbreak of such bad events.
This makes the resolution of the Taiwan issue time-critical, and once the independents take advantage of the "healing" moment, we are forced to face a bad situation where we cannot take immediate action, and the Americans will only increase our pressure further: for example, by being the first to recognize and openly station troops
Do you think Taiwan, US have no domestic problems? What makes you think they have the political will to declare Taiwan independence?

Right now in Taiwan, COVID is killing 200 ppl per day in an island of just 23 million people..it is equivalent of 12000 dying per day in China.

In US, general inflation is 10%, house inflation is 20%.

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Gas price inflation is 50%.

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Do you think they can afford to attack China right now?

Attacking China means world starves even if China doesn't fight back at all. China is #1 producer of ammonia, the precursor of all fertilizer. It produces more than next 5 countries combined.

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70% of food for humans is produced from ammonia fertilizer.

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And that is if China doesn't fight back.

If China fights back only with navy, not targeting homelands, it means that Japan, South Korea starve immediately, and everyone else starves within a few months.

It means that US inflation rises to 100% or higher and shortages of critical components destroy their economy.

That is fighting in the most limited way, just with navy.

So, do they have more domestic legitimacy than CPC?

Do they want to find out with 20-50% inflation and one of the worst COVID outbreaks in the world?

Who do you think would really crack first?
 
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Pepper

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I read, seems to be someone without much social maturity. goes on and on about how every time China says that there's warning of this and that, nothing happened. Says 透支政治资本 and,拿事涉国本的问题来放狠话, 放完之后又多次不了了之。

This guy simply doesn't understand politics or have much social maturity. US says this all the time.

There was a red line in Syria. It was ignored. Nothing happened.

There was a red line in Ukraine. Russia ignored it. Nothing happened.

They were going to fix inflation. Inflation is worse than ever.

They were going to give Americans back all the money that China took. They didn't get a penny back.

They were going to punish China for COVID. Where is the punishment?

拿事涉国本的问题来放狠话, 放完之后又多次不了了之。Perfect description of US actions, not Chinese.

If this is the worst of the radicals then there's nothing to worry about. Just a few immature people who don't know how the world actually works.
its true. whypipo love barking, biting is another matter
 

zhangjim

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So you are saying that if China does not reunify Taiwan soon enough, China would collapse from within? Is that what you mean?

Also, I noticed that you are using a translator machine.
My English skills were largely lost after I graduated from college, so I need to use some tools.I couldn't correct some of the statement errors before because of the network.

China will not see the kind of collapse claimed by doomsday prophets,but there are indeed many unpromising internal red flags.
In the past few years I would have thought that the landing capability needed further strengthening, so waiting a few years would have been appropriate.

But these two years I have changed my opinion.The international environment is rapidly deteriorating and that the Americans are taking the initiative to inflame the conflict.
And the problems accumulated in recent years in the past rapid development of our country has now come to a concentrated explosion.
The future is too variable, and the handling of many of today's socially focused issues is disappointing: people make a big deal of criticism, but as the heat dies down, everything goes back to the old ways and nothing changes.
Local governments play rogue in some deadly PR crises,the shadow under the halo is very heavy.

The enterprising spirit of the whole society is disappearing, so we have to question whether the government has the will to realize national reunification.
It is disappointing that the official slogan of peaceful reunification is still being chanted, but the general public no longer sees any hope in it.
Taiwanese are taking advantage of preferential treatment policies for profit,but no ruling party in Taiwan has the will to reunify.

No one can support such ineffective slogans without complaint,what's worse is that many experts are spending their energy on studying what policies to use to give preferential treatment to Taiwanese.
This is a very bad situation and the country has formed interest groups that exploit ethnic division for profit and impede reunification in various ways.

We are not like the Americans who can throw all the blame on the previous ruling party and all the grievances will be directed at the CPC, but the CPC has long since ceased to be a group with highly aligned interests.To the left or to the right is still a question that needs to be faced.

On the issue of political legitimacy, some believe that the government should not squander this valuable asset excessively, and that a large part of the success of many things must be attributed to the dedication of the people's support, but this does not mean that problems and burdens can be thrown on the people at will.

China has a cruel historical experience: any time it shows the slightest sign of weakness, the neighboring countries will swarm like vipers.
The rather dazzling U.S. military mythology has created extreme contempt for China's military capabilities in many countries and has fueled their adventurist tendencies.

It was once said that the Chinese have not experienced a full cycle of economic crisis, but the Americans have not experienced a full cycle of national rise and fall.

Although we have experienced numerous difficult moments, each generation has to face problems that are their own.The next few years may be even more difficult.

The Western world is much more fragile than we think,there is no better time to take action than right now.It should act decisively before falling into decadence, especially since China historically has a bad habit of voluntarily contracting its borders and giving up territory when the country is in trouble.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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My English skills were largely lost after I graduated from college, so I need to use some tools.I couldn't correct some of the statement errors before because of the network.

China will not see the kind of collapse claimed by doomsday prophets,but there are indeed many unpromising internal red flags.
In the past few years I would have thought that the landing capability needed further strengthening, so waiting a few years would have been appropriate.

But these two years I have changed my opinion.The international environment is rapidly deteriorating and that the Americans are taking the initiative to inflame the conflict.
And the problems accumulated in recent years in the past rapid development of our country has now come to a concentrated explosion.
The future is too variable, and the handling of many of today's socially focused issues is disappointing: people make a big deal of criticism, but as the heat dies down, everything goes back to the old ways and nothing changes.
Local governments play rogue in some deadly PR crises,the shadow under the halo is very heavy.

The enterprising spirit of the whole society is disappearing, so we have to question whether the government has the will to realize national reunification.
It is disappointing that the official slogan of peaceful reunification is still being chanted, but the general public no longer sees any hope in it.
Taiwanese are taking advantage of preferential treatment policies for profit,but no ruling party in Taiwan has the will to reunify.

No one can support such ineffective slogans without complaint,what's worse is that many experts are spending their energy on studying what policies to use to give preferential treatment to Taiwanese.
This is a very bad situation and the country has formed interest groups that exploit ethnic division for profit and impede reunification in various ways.

We are not like the Americans who can throw all the blame on the previous ruling party and all the grievances will be directed at the CPC, but the CPC has long since ceased to be a group with highly aligned interests.To the left or to the right is still a question that needs to be faced.

On the issue of political legitimacy, some believe that the government should not squander this valuable asset excessively, and that a large part of the success of many things must be attributed to the dedication of the people's support, but this does not mean that problems and burdens can be thrown on the people at will.

China has a cruel historical experience: any time it shows the slightest sign of weakness, the neighboring countries will swarm like vipers.
The rather dazzling U.S. military mythology has created extreme contempt for China's military capabilities in many countries and has fueled their adventurist tendencies.

It was once said that the Chinese have not experienced a full cycle of economic crisis, but the Americans have not experienced a full cycle of national rise and fall.

Although we have experienced numerous difficult moments, each generation has to face problems that are their own.The next few years may be even more difficult.

The Western world is much more fragile than we think,there is no better time to take action than right now.It should act decisively before falling into decadence, especially since China historically has a bad habit of voluntarily contracting its borders and giving up territory when the country is in trouble.
Americans don't blame the previous party though. That was the past. Today they blame their entire system.

Congress - the government body, not just Democrat or Republican Party - has the lowest approval rating in history at 18%.

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So they are the ones who have to carefully consider whether they have the political capital and economic capability to truly escalate the conflict.

Their domestic problems are approaching critical. All of their domestic problems will be made worse in a war against China. But if they wait it is good for China. So escalation now, they lose. Wait, they also lose.

Also, don't worry about neighboring countries. Nuclear weapons deter them easily, since they can't hit back. They need to worry about their own existence. Just 10-20% of nuclear weapons saved for regional deterrence is enough. They also have no capability to project power to China.
 
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