PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

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Awwkus

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@Blitzo I support deleting the last few pages. I follow this forum and especially this thread expecting an exchange of educated information I can possibly learn from, not tired parroting of Western cliché, which I get for free all over YouTube, Reddit, and the MSM. Can’t let a single user destroy an entire thread built in years.
 
siegecrossbow

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ZeEa5KPul said:
Damn, I love these stories from Chinese antiquity. Let me tell you my favourite of these stories, "Emperor Wu and the Troublesome Xiongnu."

Once upon a time, many, many, years ago, there lived a Chinese emperor. Because fate has decreed that China must always be bothered by some group of assholes, this emperor was dealing with a band of nomadic raiders called the Xiongnu. The emperor had a serious problem - China didn't have the cavalry to deal with the raider scum and no response to their hit-and-run tactics. Seeing this, the emperor decided to cobble together a diplomatic accord with the raiders and build China's economy.

So things went until the emperor died and was succeeded by his son. The new emperor continued his father's project until he himself died and was succeeded by his son, the emperor Wu.

Emperor Wu, seeing the great lengths his father and grandfather went to build the empire's economy, began a massive militarization program which saw the breeding of hundreds of thousands of horses along with the professionalization of the army. He then goes to war against the Xiongnu...

If you want to know how the war went, ask yourself one question: Do you know any Xiongnu?
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Everything happening right now in the world has already happened during the Spring and Autumn/Warring State period of Chinese history. Back in 2013 Xi urged Chinese officials to study up on Warring States history. I immediately knew where their ambitions lie.
 
FairAndUnbiased

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ZeEa5KPul said:
Damn, I love these stories from Chinese antiquity. Let me tell you my favourite of these stories, "Emperor Wu and the Troublesome Xiongnu."

Once upon a time, many, many, years ago, there lived a Chinese emperor. Because fate has decreed that China must always be bothered by some group of assholes, this emperor was dealing with a band of nomadic raiders called the Xiongnu. The emperor had a serious problem - China didn't have the cavalry to deal with the raider scum and no response to their hit-and-run tactics. Seeing this, the emperor decided to cobble together a diplomatic accord with the raiders and build China's economy.

So things went until the emperor died and was succeeded by his son. The new emperor continued his father's project until he himself died and was succeeded by his son, the emperor Wu.

Emperor Wu, seeing the great lengths his father and grandfather went to build the empire's economy, began a massive militarization program which saw the breeding of hundreds of thousands of horses along with the professionalization of the army. He then goes to war against the Xiongnu...

If you want to know how the war went, ask yourself one question: Do you know any Xiongnu?
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From M.H. Yang at PDF:

弱冠初仕羽林郎，
披甲扶剑辞吾皇。
少年骁勇负胆气，
笑随烈候出定襄。
踏破漠北七千里，
骠骑将军镇渔阳。
匈奴嫁妇失颜色，
封狼居胥擒胡王。
天妒英才冠军候，
百死不悔为汉殇。
 
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solarz said:
I just came to a realization: the Uyghur genocide story is a litmus test.

Near the end of the Qin dynasty, the eunnuch Zhao Gao became the power behind the throne. In order to purge those who might not be loyal to him, Zhao Gao one day brought a deer into the court, and told the Emperor that it was a marvelous horse. The Emperor, confused, asked Zhao Gao if he was joking, since this was obviously a deer. Zhao Gao turned to the imperial court and in complete seriousness, asked the officials present to tell the Emperor if this was a deer or a horse.

Some officials, fearing Zhao Gao's power, or wanting to court his favor, told the Emperor it was a horse. Other officials, unwilling to bend their dignity, maintained that it was a horse.

Zhao Gao memorized every official that claimed it was a horse, and later had them killed under various pretexts.

The Uyghur genocide story is the modern version of 指鹿为马. When the day of armed reunification comes, you can be certain that the world will be divided into two camps: those who joined in on the genocide accusations, and those who refused to be a part of it.
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Actually, if I were to analyze the whole "Uyghur Genocide" farce with a Chinese mindset but in a Western/US position, I say that this is actually genius smearing tactic. It's genius precisely because it's not true, And it achieved just the desired purpose.

1. It's an allegation that will remain an allegation. So it would be an ongoing topic to annoy China with. It's not a done deal.

2. Since it's NOT true, there are no pressure upon the real Western Judiciary Institution. They DON'T have to prove whether it's real or not with real evidence. This gives them both the benefit of such allegation being misinterpreted by gullible general public as being prove true, and bear no consequences of Chinese counter evidences to disprove it. It's like China already felt the damage from a slander, but at the same time, can't really accuse and prosecute the West/US for slander, because they didn't technically determine any of the allegations to be true.

3. Because it's not true, but at the same time, has some level of internet popularity, it become kinda like a spetre/urban-legend. This kind of thing is very difficult to counter with remedial media action/activity.

4. Even though it is NOT something that is proven, because the level of popularity and recognition among the people in the West, congressional/legislative action can be taken to give the US excuse to target Chinese industries as well as economical geostrategies in Xinjiang.

This is why I think the worst kind of modern war fighting is Media war in this current distributed Internet/Digital Era. It is just so entirely new, and very hard to deal with, especially for large complex countries in the rise like China (potentially India as well, in the future).
 
luosifen

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Back on topic, I can't imagine the MSS not activating its assets on the island if armed reunification is required. Taiwan is an internal affair and not subject to the 'non-interventionist' doctrine China applies in its relations with other countries.
 
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