PLA Small arms

MwRYum

Major
Why aren't they wearing Type-07 chest rig? Are they really going back to tactical vest instead of chest rig... that would be very weird.

That I took a picture of it displayed in an PLA exhibition in 2009 or so, the type in that pic IIRC is the Type-III variant offers the highest level of protection.

And actually, as of 2012, something more "proper" than that common crap is available to PLAN at least, alas to their naval spec-ops formation. Have seen them on their Gulf of Aden Expedition troops during the 2012 visit.
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This definitely no plate holder with MOLLE mount points...worn by the task group's spec-op detachment.

And, well...to be fair, that "ugly thing" might have something to do with how it was worn...
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From the same occasion, but these are local garrison.
 

shen

Senior Member
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What about this? I remember this used to be consider "high speed...low drag" for those infantry types during the 90s.;)

high speed...low drag? sorry I can't resist :)

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Broccoli

Senior Member
I'm not saying that tactical vest is a bad thing since it's apparently allows soldier carry four magazines and other stuff with him in a rather small package, but it's still odd for them to adopt that sort of design when there is tons of different proven "chicom" chest rigs and it's variations existing.
 

MwRYum

Major
I'm not saying that tactical vest is a bad thing since it's apparently allows soldier carry four magazines and other stuff with him in a rather small package, but it's still odd for them to adopt that sort of design when there is tons of different proven "chicom" chest rigs and it's variations existing.

When you consider the variety and weight of things modern soldiers have to carry, even on the "light load" situation, a tactical vest that has a boarder shoulder footprint is still more comfortable and versatile than the "old and proven" rigs that has thinner shoulder straps. Those who wore the ye 'olde days H-Harness and various assault vests should know that world of difference.
 

pendragon

Junior Member
Is there any recent (modern) 7.62x39 belt-fed mg apart from rpd and it's clones?
with recent is (isis) succes and counterarctions I noted the absence of any squad level belt-fed mg in standard infantry caliber. Why did nobody bother to offer minimi in7.62x39?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
No. And it's not likely either other then DSA Arms recent RPD Carbine Update the belt feed 7.62x39mm class is dead.
First the big arms builders of the world have moved away form 7.62x39mm rounds, The US, German, Belgian, Switzerland and Italy are all NATO calibre with only the rare branching into the Russian calibres. Russia, Czech republic, Poland and most of the old Warsaw pact have either moved into NATO or the latter Russian 5.45x39mm and The Chinese with the 5.8mm most of the nations still using the 7.62x39mm round are not capable of much in the way of weapons production, those that are are limited usually with limited Research and development assets this combined with the fact that the RPD as a Soviet product is not protected under any international patents means it's Cheap Very very Cheap to just knock it off. the one exception is Valmet who operates the indigenous Kk 62 a belt feed 7.62x39mm

The next issue for it is the Kalashnikov. the function of a LMG is suppressive fire at the squad level, This function is best done with a belt feed MG but that feed is heavy a empty RPD tips the scales at a little over 16 pounds unloaded. It's Russian replacement the RPK basicly a AKM with a reinforced receiver longer magazine, longer barrel, heaver stock and the addition of a bipod it tips the scales at just over 10 pounds unloaded. 90% of the lesser nations and groups who you would want to buy this system will Cheat. They will take a AKM variant and just install a RPK magazine.

Finally back to Weight. Remember the RPD weights in at over 16 pounds, the PK Machinegun firing the more powerful 7.62x54mm round but tips the scales at just under 20 pounds yet offers 1.5 times the effective range. the PKP "Pecheneg" the latest LMG version of the PK series tips the scales at exactly 19 pounds. 3 pounds gives you 1.5 times the range. The Russians the Fins and just about anyone else looking at a Russian based ammo for a Belt fed LMG is probably looking that way.
 

ahho

Junior Member
Something I don't understand about the Type-03 and the AK from the manufacturer. Why didn't they build the upper receiver with picatinny rail built in like the AK-12?

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also, this is what I was talking about somewhere in this forum, make it like the QBU-88 if they need to add rail system.
 
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