PLA AEW&C, SIGINT, EW and MPA thread

Deino

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Yes ... it will be in the current March issue !

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A.Man

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Are They Different?

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Deino

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Hmmm ... never noticed that one of them has black radomes !
 

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Ah, mystery solved!

About a month ago I posted the picture of the Y-8 seemingly with the KJ-2000's AESA radar on top, and I wondered if the PLAAF were tired of waiting for the Il-76/Y-20 platform and decided to jsut stick it on the Y-8...
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From huitong, it turns out this is the testbed for the Y-7/carrier based fixed wing awacs.
Now that I think about it, that radar would be proportionally way smaller than the larger equivalent on the KJ-2000.

A recent rumor (September 2010) claimed that a prototype was built and is being tested at CFTE, featuring four E-2C style vertical tailfins. The fixed AESA radar is also being tested at CFTE onboard a Y-8 T0518 testbed.
 
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Lion

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Ah, mystery solved!

About a month ago I posted the picture of the Y-8 seemingly with the KJ-2000's AESA radar on top, and I wondered if the PLAAF were tired of waiting for the Il-76/Y-20 platform and decided to jsut stick it on the Y-8...
Y-8AEW.jpg


From huitong, it turns out this is the testbed for the Y-7/carrier based fixed wing awacs.
Now that I think about it, that radar would be proportionally way smaller than the larger equivalent on the KJ-2000.
That AWACS is built for PAF.
 

Blitzo

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No, i dont. They look similar, except the painting.

Tut.

One radar is an E-3 style mechanical rotating array while the other is a triangular, fixed array like KJ-2000/phalcon. Besides you could always read up on some of this stuff... even sinodefence.com, about three years since the last update, has info on this. Or huitong's page, really all this is elementary.
the paint is indicative of the cover over the array, so from there you can deduce what kind of radar they are... I mean where else could the difference be, on the aircraft's fuselage? :confused:

Of course the AESA Y-8 testbed could possibly be a PS... but I dobut it, given the picture doesn't look dodgy and huitong's not had a track record of being fooled by PS.
 

aeweng

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Does anyone know what kind of AESA array the KJ2000 AWACS is?
what type of radiating elements (i.e. flared notch) they are?
I believe the E-3 had a slotted planar array

thanks

Tut.

One radar is an E-3 style mechanical rotating array while the other is a triangular, fixed array like KJ-2000/phalcon. Besides you could always read up on some of this stuff... even sinodefence.com, about three years since the last update, has info on this. Or huitong's page, really all this is elementary.
the paint is indicative of the cover over the array, so from there you can deduce what kind of radar they are... I mean where else could the difference be, on the aircraft's fuselage? :confused:

Of course the AESA Y-8 testbed could possibly be a PS... but I dobut it, given the picture doesn't look dodgy and huitong's not had a track record of being fooled by PS.
 

plawolf

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No, this one is:

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And this was the testbed for the PAF one.

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The same testbed is now being used for this:

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spot the difference?

I'm pretty surprised no-one else has noticed this already, but it should be more like 'spot the similarities' with those two pictures.

Notice how they both have the same tail number of 'T0518'. I call PS on the second one. The radar dish on the KJ2000 is significantly bigger than the one on that Y8. If they went with a rotating two-faced array, they could probably get similar sized ESA panels in it to give similar range performance, but if they went with a 3-faced fixed array, then each array would be considerably smaller, with corresponding reduction in performance.
 
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