PLA AEW&C, SIGINT, EW and MPA thread

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Banned Idiot
How do you know they didn't upgrade it? Data type communication is the norm in today's world.

if you look at nose and tail of KJ-200, notice two small antenna, these are data transmission antenna ,while blade antenna provided a secure voice communication.ZDK-03 do not carry data transmission antenna.
JTIDS is a highly sensitive classified communication gear, even in the US only few countries are allowed to purchased the equipment.(not even israel and taiwan,even saude arabia only get it three years ago).
if JTIDS failed into the hand of US, basically they can "read it real time" or find way to jam the communication .
 

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Banned Idiot
according to dec.2010 issue of air forces monthly article about the PLAAF AWACS "Eyes of the dragon' ,the west has given designated name for KJ-2000 "MainRing",as in "mainstay" for A-50 , article claim that PLAAF may be pursuing 2 track program for next gen, of AWACS. one is possible converting airbus or even 737 into Wedgetail tail AWCS,other alternative is turning business jet into a G-550 type AWACS.
 

Lion

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according to dec.2010 issue of air forces monthly article about the PLAAF AWACS "Eyes of the dragon' ,the west has given designated name for KJ-2000 "MainRing",as in "mainstay" for A-50 , article claim that PLAAF may be pursuing 2 track program for next gen, of AWACS. one is possible converting airbus or even 737 into Wedgetail tail AWCS,other alternative is turning business jet into a G-550 type AWACS.

From the way I see it, Y-20 transport plane and C919 commercial aircraft are very critical to PLAAF AWACS development. Obviously KJ-200 is not enough to satisfy PLAAF and PLAN growing doctrine.
 

Deino

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according to dec.2010 issue of air forces monthly article about the PLAAF AWACS "Eyes of the dragon' ,the west has given designated name for KJ-2000 "MainRing",as in "mainstay" for A-50 , article claim that PLAAF may be pursuing 2 track program for next gen, of AWACS. one is possible converting airbus or even 737 into Wedgetail tail AWCS,other alternative is turning business jet into a G-550 type AWACS.

Sorry to correct You ... that report was published in the "Cambat Aircraft Monthly" ... and I was responsible for that feature. :eek:

I simply suggested these as possibilities (honestly there are not many more left IMO ! ) which are maybe under consideration. O.k. ... another one could be to wait for the Y-20 ... but IMO that would be too late.

Here's that part in question as an "cut-out".

So long, Deino


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kroko

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I simply suggested these as possibilities (honestly there are not many more left IMO ! ) which are maybe under consideration. O.k. ... another one could be to wait for the Y-20 ... but IMO that would be too late.

why would that be too late? Besides, the possibilities that you present are just temporary, because china cant rely on foreign commercial/business planes, not to mention the political/diplomatic repercussions of doing so. IMO china has no other future large awacs plataform besides Y-20.
 

delft

Brigadier
It makes sense to go to AWACS aircraft with conformal antennae because that saves weight and drag. A high flying aircraft with high wing and the engines as in AN-72 looks attractive. If the fuselage is built from fiber reinforced plastic rather than aluminum the antennae element can be integrated in the skin, saving more weight.
Might be a good idea for a carrier based AWACS.
 

In4ser

Junior Member
I understand the Yak-44 was chosen over the AN-72. How good is its loitering capability? As it uses a jet engine rather than turboprops?
 
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delft

Brigadier
I suggested the configuration of AN-72, not the aircraft itself. A mini-AWACS version of AN-72 was proposed, with the antenna on top of the vertical tail plane, but not built. AN-72 has the wrong undercarriage for use on a carrier, so developing Yak-44 made sense.
Two advantages of the AN-72 configuration are:
* During take off and landing the engine efflux is deflected downward by the wing flaps, giving STOL performance
* No propellers interfere with the antennae on the side of the fuselage.
I am fully aware of the advantages of propellers, especially modern contra-rotating or co-axial ones and regret that they are rare. The only aircraft with the propellers I like is the AN-70.
 
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