Philippines Vs Taiwan... Troubled Waters

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Sunday, May 19th, 2013
ILOILO CITY, Philippines — Hotels and resorts on Boracay Island have been reeling from the cancellation of bookings of Taiwanese tourists amid the diplomatic row following the killing of a Taiwanese fisherman by Filipino coast guards, according to travel operators.

Henry Chusuey, chair of the Boracay Foundation Inc. (BFI), said several resorts catering to Taiwanese tour groups had been experiencing cancellations of hotel reservations since last week.

Chusuey, who owns the Boracay Regency group of hotels, said his hotels alone had bookings for 100 rooms cancelled.

He said chartered flights and groups tours from Taiwan had been suspended.

The foundation’s president, Dionisio Salme, said other resorts had also been experiencing cancellations over the past five days ago. “We hope that this will be temporary but it is unfortunate that this happened during the summer season,” Salme said.

Nenette Aguirre-Graf, who operated the 26-room Boracay Beach Resort, said her hotel had cancellations for bookings for 10 rooms. “We have to refund their credit card payments,” she said.

Taiwan is the second biggest market of Boracay among foreign tourists next to Korea, according to the Department of Tourism.

In 2012, the DOT said 92,209 tourists from Taiwan went to Boracay, followed by 156,445 from Korea, and 82,358 from China.

Boracay Island also suffered a slack in tourist arrivals after China slapped a travel ban on the Philippines last year over the Scarborough Shoal dispute.

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MANILA - A local budget carrier has suspended its chartered flights between Boracay and Taipei because of the political tensions between the Philippines and Taiwan.

InterAksyon.com obtained a copy of the letter by Butch Rodriguez, Zest Airways Inc senior vice president for commercial and external affairs, to Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB), which stated they will temporarily halt its Kalibo-Taipei flights effective May 20 until further notice.

"This sudden suspension is mainly due to the political crisis between the Philippines and Taiwan," Rodriguez said.

"As such the scheduled charters on May 16 and 19 would still push through to ferry Taiwanese passenger back to Taipei but no passenger on the return flight," he added.

Rodriguez said its charter agent has informed the company that the Taiwanese government has issued a "red travel advisory" to them, saying Taiwanese tourists are banned from traveling to the Philippines.

The Taipei government's move came after it dismissed Manila's apology for the Philippine Coast Guard's shooting of a 65-year-old fisherman, declaring that it was "not enough [as it was] lacking in sincerity."

China Airlines also has pending applications before the CAB to temporarily cease its Kalibo to Taipei flight.

Cebu Pacific, Air Asia Philippines and Philippines Airlines have yet to announce if they will suspend their flights to Taiwan.
 
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leibowitz

Junior Member
First, if you believe that the ROCN is capable of effectively covering all the "hot" fishing spots, then why were they not deployed back in 2006? Why did they not prevent Hung's death?

Second, you are wrong to think that Mainland can get away with more than Taiwan. The Mainland always has to worry about American intervention. Taiwan does not. Despite what you seem to think, the choice between PH and TW is a no-brainer. The only reason US refuses to condemn PH is because, as mentioned by AMace, they don't want to give China more leverage in the SCS dispute.

Therefore, the only thing preventing TW from quickly and decisively ending this dispute is her own inertia and lack of confidence.

I wouldn't necessarily call naval exercises and a full-bore diplomatic counteroffensive 'inertia and a lack of confidence'.
 

Player 0

Junior Member
With the up to the minute coverage this thread has offered, its important to remember this has all happened within the span of the week, i think Ma has just been waiting to see what the American response is and how the Philippines will respond to that.

If the answer is still no then i expect much harder sanctions to follow, and maybe even a full blown embargo.
 
The Aquino Administration wants the Filipino People, instead of the Philippine Government to take responsibility for the shooting of Taiwan fisherman.

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Published on 20 May 2013
Written by Bernice Camille V. Bauzon, Catherine S. Valente and Ritchie A. Horario Reporters And Jomar Canlas Senior Reporter

IF not for the unwelcome interference of a Philippine government official, Taiwan would have accepted the apology issued by Manila over the death of a Taiwanese fisherman off Batanes two weeks ago.

Officials of the Taiwan Economic and Cultural Office (TECO) on Monday also revealed that two letters presented by the Manila Economic and Cultural Office (MECO) to Taiwan were deemed acceptable at first but were scrapped after a “secret phone call” from the official, who has not been named.

The phone call “blew up everything” previously agreed upon, David Chen, TECO’s assistant to the representative, told reporters during a luncheon briefing in Makati City.

He said the phone call was made to Antonio Basilio, MECO’s resident representative in Taipei, merely minutes after a third “acceptable” letter was handed to Taiwan Foreign Minister David Lin.
Basilio was sought for comment but he would not talk.

‘Beyond imagination’
According to Chen, the fourth and final version of the letter was “unacceptable and beyond imagination” even though it expressed deep regret for the killing of 65-year-old Hung Shih-chen by members of the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) on May 9.

All four letters, which were presented between 8 p.m. and midnight of May 14, were signed by Basilio but the last version had a second copy signed by MECO Chairman Amadeo Perez Jr., President Benigno Aquino 3rd’s personal representative to Taipei.

None of the letters bore the signature of the President since the Philippines follow the One China Policy, which means no government official can directly negotiate with Taiwan, considered a province by mainland China.

Chen said the first and third letters were acceptable to Taiwan because the “regret and apology” over the incident were conveyed by the “Philippine government” and not by the “Filipino people” as mentioned by the second and fourth versions.

“The shooting incident was conducted by civil servants. It is not the Filipino people’s fault. That’s why we cannot accept the letter saying President Aquino wants peace and Filipino people apologize [for the incident] because the Filipino people are not [responsible for what happened],” he explained.

“We demand a formal apology. We want your government to formally apologize,” Chen said.

Different versions
The first and third versions responded positively to the four concessions asked by Taipei from Manila—a formal apology from the Philippine government, a thorough investigation of the incident and appropriate punishment for the perpetrators, compensation to the family of the fisherman and opening of fisheries talks.

The second and final versions, however, dropped the promise to investigate the incident and punish those who will be found guilty.

The final letter, which was eventually rejected by Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou, also did not say whether it will provide financial restitution to the victim’s family.

“If this happened to you, I believe you will also feel strange. We agreed on something and then you [suddenly] changed and changed this [in one night],” Chen said.

He said that until all of Taiwan’s conditions are met, it will continue to impose “countermeasures” against the Philippines, which include a freeze on the hiring of Filipino workers and the recalling of its de facto ambassador in Manila.

There are about 85,000 Filipinos working in Taiwan, mostly in the manufacturing and domestic sectors. Labor officials said some 2,000 applications are processed monthly.

Unacceptable
Chen explained that the four responses from Manila were “not acceptable” as they were “not formal.”

“What we are asking for is very fair—an impartial investigation. We want to follow the right procedure in accordance with international laws,” he pointed out.

“We do not ask excessively. They [requirements] are reasonable. We cannot accept such unsatisfactory [responses from the Philippine government]. They promised one thing first and then, different agencies say different things,” he added.

Chen said the Taiwanese investigation team that arrived in Manila last week was invited by Basilio.
The team was surprised when it received a notice from the Department of Justice (DOJ) saying they should go through proper channels, he added.

Chen said a similar case was resolved in January 2006 under the administration of then President and now Representative Gloria Arroyo of Pampanga.

A Taiwanese fishing vessel was apparently shot at by a Philippine vessel, which killed one and severely injured another. A week after the incident, an investigation team arrived from Taiwan on January 23 and stayed in Manila until the 27th.

A Philippine team was then sent to Taiwan from March 2 to 5 to conduct its own investigation regarding the incident, Chen said.

Before the investigation team arrived from Taiwan, its de facto envoy to Manila Raymond Wang also wrote the Justice department to inform it about their intentions to hold a joint investigation on the incident, Chen added.

TECO officials maintained that what happened off the coast of Batanes island on May 9 was a “shooting spree” and a “cold-blooded murder.”

According to documents presented by TECO, the Guang Da Xing No. 28 was 14.7 meters in length and 15.15 tons in weight compared to the PCG’s Philippine Marine Control and Surveillance Vessel 3001, which is 30 meters in length and 115.45 tons in weight.

“Let the evidence talk. They say we rammed their boat, but we are very small in size,” Chen said.
The boat had 59 bullet holes, mostly in the cockpit.

“It was a shooting spree,” Chen insisted, adding that members of the PCG should have known that the fishermen would hide in the cockpit.

Chen admitted that the Taiwanese and the Indonesian on board tried to escape.

But before they could do so, shots rang out, Chen quoted the fishermen as saying.

“They don’t think they [Philippine vessel] fired a warning shot. It is a series of shooting. They tried to escape but they were chased by the Filipino ship,” he said.

Overlapping EEZs
At the same time, Chen belied media reports saying that the Taiwanese fishermen were poaching in Philippine territorial waters.

The channel separating Taipei and Manila is very narrow, so the two countries’ exclusive economic zones (EEZs) overlap, he explained, adding that if Manila will claim its 200-nautical mile right to explore and exploit resources, it would reach central Taiwan.

The incident happened 36 nautical miles from Batanes Island and 164 nautical miles from Taiwan’s south, which is a clear indication that it was off the Philippines 12-nautical mile and 24-nautical mile territorial and adjacent waters, Chen said.

“It happened in disputed waters. It is still our EEZ just as you are entitled to claim your EEZ,” he told reporters.

An EEZ was provided for by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (Unclos) to delineate the parts of the sea that can be exclusively exploited by a claimant country.
 

Geographer

Junior Member
The channel separating Taipei and Manila is very narrow, so the two countries’ exclusive economic zones (EEZs) overlap, he explained, adding that if Manila will claim its 200-nautical mile right to explore and exploit resources, it would reach central Taiwan.

The incident happened 36 nautical miles from Batanes Island and 164 nautical miles from Taiwan’s south, which is a clear indication that it was off the Philippines 12-nautical mile and 24-nautical mile territorial and adjacent waters, Chen said.

“It happened in disputed waters. It is still our EEZ just as you are entitled to claim your EEZ,” he told reporters.

EEZs cannot overlap! It's called the Exclusive Economic Zone for a reason. In this situation, the EEZ boundaries are midway between the two countries.
 

joshuatree

Captain
EEZs cannot overlap! It's called the Exclusive Economic Zone for a reason. In this situation, the EEZ boundaries are midway between the two countries.

Actually, there isn't any stipulation in UNCLOS that overlapping EEZs are simply resolved by choosing midway between two countries. In the section defining territorial sea, yes, it mentions midway would be the basis unless there was previous precedent for something otherwise.




According to documents presented by TECO, the Guang Da Xing No. 28 was 14.7 meters in length and 15.15 tons in weight compared to the PCG’s Philippine Marine Control and Surveillance Vessel 3001, which is 30 meters in length and 115.45 tons in weight.

Finally, some specs for comparison. The fishing boat is made of fiberglass so it isn't just smaller, it's not even of the same material as the PCG vessel. A Bloomberg article mentioned the fishing boat pretty much maxed out at 12 knots during the pursuit. I think the PCG vessel is capable of going more than that which means that whole attempted ramming story doesn't fly, the PCG vessel can pull circles around the fishing boat.
 

vesicles

Colonel
The Aquino Administration wants the Filipino People, instead of the Philippine Government to take responsibility for the shooting of Taiwan fisherman.

Wow! Four letters in one night! So the first went one direction, the second turned around 180 deg, the third one went back to positive tone, while the fourth one again turned 180 deg? Wow! talking about govn't incompetence! Can they get a consensus within their govn't? I mean, if this kind of mixed-up happened once, I would understand. There must be some kind of miscommunication. But 4 times??? What were they thinking??
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Wow! Four letters in one night! So the first went one direction, the second turned around 180 deg, the third one went back to positive tone, while the fourth one again turned 180 deg? Wow! talking about govn't incompetence! Can they get a consensus within their govn't? I mean, if this kind of mixed-up happened once, I would understand. There must be some kind of miscommunication. But 4 times??? What were they thinking??
I think this demostrates that within the PN gvernment, at the highest levels, there is disagreement on what to do.

One faction (the one that ended up carrying the day) does not want to admit direct responsibility and so are politically trying to put it off on the people as a whole, and using the One China policy to justify it.

In addition, they clearly are split on how to compensate the family.

In the end, it shows indecisiveness on the decison maker's part. Influenced one way, then another, then another, and then a final time in the space of one evening.

The last decision, IMHO, was simply wrong, and they would have been best advised to go with either of the two letters that they wrote to the ROC, that the ROC was willing to accept. If they had, this whole thing would have been long over.
 
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