Philippines Vs Taiwan... Troubled Waters

Franklin said:

The Philipinnes says that they cannot cooperate with Taiwan with the investigation into the shooting or that the government cannot offer a official apology because of the "One China Policy". Do they have a point there ? And how would China respond if the Philipinnes ending up doing those things ?

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Jeff Head said:

I think this demostrates that within the PN gvernment, at the highest levels, there is disagreement on what to do.

One faction (the one that ended up carrying the day) does not want to admit direct responsibility and so are politically trying to put it off on the people as a whole, and using the One China policy to justify it.

In addition, they clearly are split on how to compensate the family.

In the end, it shows indecisiveness on the decison maker's part. Influenced one way, then another, then another, and then a final time in the space of one evening.

The last decision, IMHO, was simply wrong, and they would have been best advised to go with either of the two letters that they wrote to the ROC, that the ROC was willing to accept. If they had, this whole thing would have been long over.

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vesicles said:

Yep. It just amazes me that some faction in the govn't can send out an official letter in the name of the govn't without govn't approval. Better yet, they would send out another letter contradicting govn't's official position AGAIN after the govn't sent out a second letter. One word: chaos.

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According to the information, the ship arrived at 20o north latitude and 123o east longitude at 2:30am on May 7 and was operating in the area between 19o 50 minutes and 20o 10 minutes north latitude, and between 122o 48 minutes and 123o 25 minutes east longitude until 8:24am on May 9, Tsay said.

From midnight on May 9 to 6:18am that day, the ship was sailing west by south at a speed of between 3 knots and 8 knots (5.6kph and 14.8kph) before it arrived at 19o 57 minutes north latitude, 122o 48 minutes east longitude, where it sailed at a lower speed of between 0 knots and 1 knot, he said.

The data showed that the ship sailed at a speed of between 4 knots and 5 knots in an east-south-east direction at 8:24am that day, while its speed increased to 10 knots at 10:12am, when its location was measured at 19o 59 minutes north latitude, 122o 55 minutes east longitude, “presumably being chased” by the Philippine vessel, Tsay said.

Tsay said the ship lost power at 11:24am at 20o 7 minutes, 123o east longitude, when its speed was measured at zero, data showed.

Analysis of the information has showed that it “contained no disruption to data recording during the voyage,” meaning that that the VDR system was operational, Tsay said.

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airsuperiority said:

I consider the Philippines half a failed state of SE Asia, although I'm referring specifically towards their government

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Jeff Head said:

I think this demostrates that within the PN gvernment, at the highest levels, there is disagreement on what to do.

One faction (the one that ended up carrying the day) does not want to admit direct responsibility and so are politically trying to put it off on the people as a whole, and using the One China policy to justify it.

In addition, they clearly are split on how to compensate the family.

In the end, it shows indecisiveness on the decison maker's part. Influenced one way, then another, then another, and then a final time in the space of one evening.

The last decision, IMHO, was simply wrong, and they would have been best advised to go with either of the two letters that they wrote to the ROC, that the ROC was willing to accept. If they had, this whole thing would have been long over.

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Dolcevita said:

Not indecisiveness. The Aquino Admministration wants to literally get away with murder. Very much a part of reality in Philippine Politics.

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