Pakistan to receive Spruance Class destroyer from the US

PRC Major Conventional Weapons Transfers to Pakistan
Year Aircraft Armour/Artillery Naval Vessels
1965 4 MiG-15 Trainers 80 T-59 MBTs not known
1966 4 IL-28 Bombers
40 F-6 Fighters not known not known
1970-73 80 F-6 Fighters 210 T-59 MBTs
53 T-63 LTs 12 SHANGHAI PBs
4 HUCHUAN FACs
1973-76 15 F-6 Fighters 159 T-59 MBTs
200 T-531 APCs 2 HAINAN PBs

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adeptitus said:

As for the Spruance class ships, they might be old by age, but the technology and weapons suite is still better than what the Pakistani surface fleet use today (ex-RN Type 21's).

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ArjunMk1 said:

I seriously doudt abt the goodies that will come with the ship. Since every Pak system will go into Chinese hand , I thing US will provide no cutting edge tech to Pakistan !!!

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ArjunMk1 said:

I seriously doudt abt the goodies that will come with the ship. Since every Pak system will go into Chinese hand , I thing US will provide no cutting edge tech to Pakistan !!!

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ArjunMk1 said:

What did China do in 1965 ?? I know she did nothing !!!

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Indianfighter said:

India and USA are natural allies. It is unlikey that USA only wants India to act as a counterweight against China (maybe one of the functions). First it was Jewish Israel, now it is Hindu India. US and India are democracies, capitalist economies and India is a big non-muslim wedge on the muslim world from Iraq to Indonesia, just like Israel was a non-muslim wedge surrounded by 6 Arab countries. I predict to see the Indo-US co-operation reaching lasting results in this century. Pakistan is only a toy which will be thrown once the batteries run out. The US deals not with Pakistan, but with Musharraf. The reason is that if Musharraf is assasinated, then the entire US-Pak policies will have to be re-thought in Washington, depending on who comes in power. This doesnt happen when governments change in India. So long as Pakistan keeps providing the nth Al-Qaeda no.3 to USA, Washington shall be satisfied. Please spare a thought : Iran removed the seals on its nuclear plant, and US is mulling strikes. But when AQ Khan's network was unearthed, he was allowed "House-arrest" by the US in Pakistan. Had India not been a neighbor of Pakistan (Many US tech industries and other interests are in India, besides a future natural ally), Pakistan would have seen pre-emptive strikes against it by the western world.

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China military upgrades a potential threat to US: Pentagon

Updated at 2200 PST

WASHINGTON: The pace and scope of China's modernization of its strategic forces and other surprising military developments could pose a credible long term threat to the United States, the Pentagon warned Tuesday.

In an annual report to Congress, the Defense Department said China's ability to sustain military power at a distance is limited but it has the greatest potential of any nation to compete
militarily with the United States.

"Long-term trends in China's strategic nuclear forces modernization, land- and sea-based access denial capabilities, and emerging precision-strike weapons have the potential to pose credible threats to modern militaries operating in the region," the report said.

"Several aspects of China's military development have surprised US analysts, including the pace and scope of its strategic forces modernization," an executive summary of the report said.

"China's military expansion is already such as to alter regional military balances," it added.
"Long-term trends in China's strategic nuclear forces modernization, land- and sea-based access denial capabilities, and emerging precision-strike weapons have the potential to pose credible threats to modern militaries operating in the region," the report said.

The annual China military power report is a closely watched barometer of military relations between the Asian power and the United States, the dominant military power in the Asia Pacific
Region.

The report made waves last year by calling attention to big, unacknowledged increases in Chinese spending on a major military buildup that it said put at risk the military balance in the region.

The latest report expanded on that theme and said China had still not adequately explained "the purposes or desired end-stats of their military expansion."

"Absent greater transparency, international reactions to China's military growth will understandably hedge against these unknowns," the report said.

In the near term, China's military buildup appeared focused on preparing for contingencies in the Taiwan Strait, including the possibility of US intervention, the report said.

China now has an estimated 710 to 790 short-range missiles opposite Taiwan, according to the report.

"However, analysis of China's military acquisitions suggest it is also generating capabilities that could apply to other regional contingencies, such as conflicts over resources or territory," it
said.

It said China has developed a new doctrine for modern warfare, reformed military institutions and personnel systems, improved exercises and training, and acquired advanced foreign and domestic
weapons systems.

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U.S. weighs export controls to slow China's military buildup

BEIJING - The Bush administration is considering whether to impose new restrictions on the export of sophisticated technologies to China in response to apparent concern about the nation's military buildup.

The pending controls are likely to spark complaints from U.S. companies that say export regulations exacerbate the yawning U.S. trade deficit with China, a charge the Commerce Department denies.

The department's undersecretary for industry and security, David H. McCormick, declined to specify what products may be added to a list of banned goods for export to military-linked entities in China.

''For the most part, the list of technologies is very narrow,'' McCormick told reporters, saying he couldn't recall if it was ''46, 48 or 43'' types of products.

China has repeatedly accused the U.S. of shooting itself in the foot with the export controls, saying that U.S. companies are losing business to firms from other countries. For their part, U.S. officials say that the People's Liberation Army aggressively seeks ''leap ahead'' technologies that will give it a measure of parity with the United States and has a mixed track record in proliferating military equipment to nations such as Iran.

McCormick said the list of more than 40 technologies under consideration for new controls is a reduction from a previous proposal and is only ''a small tweak to existing policy.'' He said the expanded list would be presented in a few weeks for public comment over a 120-day period.

At the same time, he said, Washington is easing controls on some items, including certain lesser categories of supercomputers. It also may set up a list of ''validated'' companies in China with no links to the military that can receive export licenses far more quickly than in the past.

''We're looking for ways to reduce the administrative burden on legitimate civilian trade,'' he said.

China is the fourth largest export market for the United States, behind Canada, Mexico and Japan, but ahead of Britain and Germany. It's also the fastest growing U.S. export market. U.S. companies exported $41 billion worth of goods to China last year.

Yet China's tidal wave of exports to U.S. shores, produced by an abundance of laborers willing to work for less than $100 a month, created a $201 billion trade surplus with the United States last year.

McCormick said that 6 percent of U.S. exports to China last year required special licenses and only $12.5 million in proposed exports were denied because of the high-tech controls.

''Export controls are not the driving force behind the trade deficit,'' he said.

Current export restrictions limit the sale of goods such as composite materials, centrifugal separators for pathogenic organisms, high-end computer software, rotor fabrication equipment, radar, avionics and other goods that could have a military purpose.

Since coming to office in 2001, the Bush administration has slapped sanctions on 68 Chinese companies and entities for proliferating weapons material and technology, mainly to Iran, a major oil supplier to China.

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Read the rules, Red color only preserved for moderation!!! And what excatly has the 1965 paki-hindu war to do whit PAN getting Spruance class destroyer???

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