well slava isent conceptionally a AAW ship, but anti-carrier boomer...and adding completely alien russian technology into so traditionally western navy...
Pakistan to receive Spruance Class destroyer from the US
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Gollevainen said:
Above that, even with Russia-Pakistan ties warming up, it may still be a few years before the Russians actually start to sell weapons to Pakistan. And another interesting fact is that the IN is more into Israeli air defense systems than Russian air defense systems.:coffee:
well only if Israelis would have to offer something more of fleet size AAW assets rather than unit size...
But I rather doupt that Slavas comes the first on the list when Moscow starts to sell arms to Pakistan...
But I rather doupt that Slavas comes the first on the list when Moscow starts to sell arms to Pakistan...
Slava class cruiser are bad idea since Pak navy has no prior experience whit cruiser class ships… Basically they would face the same problems that possibly made them to drop Spruance purchase…
As for interdiction of completely different technology in traditionally western navy; they are doing that write now (F-22P whit Chinese weapons systems)…
As for interdiction of completely different technology in traditionally western navy; they are doing that write now (F-22P whit Chinese weapons systems)…
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a Sov cost China 700 million US. I doubt a Slava would cost less than that. Don't quote listed price of Ukrina, the listed price for a sov was 425 million (it obviously cost China a lot more) So what am I saying? A slava would be too expensive. Not just the procurement cost, but also the operating costs.Finn McCool said:
actually Pakistanis did operate ex-hms diadem as Babur up till 80's and briefely a county class DLG that could consider as cruiser...but your rigth, it havent operated asuw missile destroyer, so alien to all other naval doctrines outside USSR....
I think the same rules apply to russia-china arms trade as to other trade in general. You cannot sell goods bougth from another to third party wihtout its approval or facing the risk of loosing the trade relationship.
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Actually if i understand miggy correctly he is trying to point to the rd-93 deal in which Russia has a face saving argument that it's not selling to Pakistan directly. If similar kind of deal could be done in which Russia sells to china and gives it tacit approval to seel to Pakistan.Gollevainen said:
My opnion is that Pakistan won't go for such a deal keeping in mind all the complexities and diplomatic sensitivities involved.
Well yeas that could be possiple, but I cannot see whether there is any real reason for it. I mean, in whose chruch has it been decleared that Russia cannot sell arms to Pakistan? Only the trade whit India migth prevent it, but Russian arms deals have had colorull history of beeing rather illogical and short sighted what comes to good deals. Its too complicated and gives too much for 'free' to china and in the end, it wouldnt fool indians in any aspect. A bad busines basicly....